badchad Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The last two (and the only two matches) I have shot with my new rifle and Burris XTR-14 required shooting a lot of head box only targets at close range (5-25 yards). The first time I shot a few necks (AKA Mikes) but this morning I planned out which hash mark I wanted to use for which distance and shot considerably better. However, I thought it took some extra mental processing time to remember which mark to use where during the course of fire and thought it might have been just as easy to just “hold over” with my scopes central dot. Going forward do you think it will be a better plan to test, remember, and practice which hash to mark to use as my point of aim for close precise shots, or would it be better to get good at just holding over the proper amount with my big central dot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 0-15 dot on top,touching the top line of the target. 15-30 dot near top,like neer the hair part, 30- 50 dead on! KurtM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MI_Packer Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I have a couple of BDC scopes on hunting guns and taped a small picture of the reticle with yardage to the scope. It helps me to remember what I should do with that particular gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhearn Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 better plan to test, remember, and practice which hash to mark to use as my point of aim for close precise shots, or would it be better to get good at just holding over the proper amount with my big central dot? I've been wondering the same thing. I don't have a BDR in my Kahles and usually do the hold over thing. As I think about getting one, I'm wondering if it would only be an occasional distance thing. I can't see looking for the hash marks while hosing. MHearn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Listen to kurt, it's how I use mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Listen to kurt, it's how I use mine. Thanks guys. Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Typically, if you have a 100 yard zero, you will hold on the 400 yard mark for 25 yard shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 0-15 dot on top,touching the top line of the target. 15-30 dot near top,like neer the hair part, 30- 50 dead on! KurtM +1 When shooting IDPA 3gun, which is what we do locally, same goes for the 0 circle ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 WOW was I lucky.....I never shoot a scope OKAY maybe everyonce in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) Be careful! Kurt's advice is for iron sighted rifles and may not work with an optically sighted rifle. Allow me to translate Kurt's iron sighted holdovers into optic terms. 0-15 yards dot on the top line of the target. 15-30 yards dot near top, like near the hairline. 30- 50 yards dead on! There! Now it should work for you! Erik Edited November 25, 2008 by Bear1142 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 If you shoot the Burris 1x4 with the duplex, the base of the crosshair where it comes up out of the duplex, is dead on a 10 yds with a 200 yd zero. Obviously the bullet is climbing pretty fast so it changes quickly, so you have to adjust a little. The crosshair is on at 50 yds, so you can see how much little mental adjustments are needed across that CQB distance. It is not hard to hit that big A zone, but if you want A's on the head only shots, it takes a little more work. Now I'll add a question for the better shooters out there. With the difference between the A and B zone only being 1 point per shot, how careful are you going to be to shoot A's versus getting two quick shots off and being happy with B's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 If you shoot the Burris 1x4 with the duplex, the base of the crosshair where it comes up out of the duplex, is dead on a 10 yds with a 200 yd zero. Obviously the bullet is climbing pretty fast so it changes quickly, so you have to adjust a little. The crosshair is on at 50 yds, so you can see how much little mental adjustments are needed across that CQB distance. It is not hard to hit that big A zone, but if you want A's on the head only shots, it takes a little more work. Now I'll add a question for the better shooters out there. With the difference between the A and B zone only being 1 point per shot, how careful are you going to be to shoot A's versus getting two quick shots off and being happy with B's? There's a 2 point difference between A and B when shooting minor, like 223, using USPSA rules. In outlaw matches, time + matches, the scoring system varies. Some specify that one hit in an A, OR one in the A-B zone, nuetralizes the target. Others require 2 hits anywhere. Whatever, I'm usually happy with Bs, but would rather have As! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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