tightloop Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 Who cares? Let the cigar shop owner say whatever he likes. The truth is, none of it matters.Walk softly, carry the big stick. But what good is your magazine without your pistol...OH...OH...Oh...you were making reference to the Teddy R quotation, not the Open magazine reference....My bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I don't know... my big stick makes a pretty good blackjack when fully loaded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 I don't know... my big stick makes a pretty good blackjack when fully loaded... Somehow the saying; don't bring a knife to a gunfight keeps popping into my head when I read your comments about using the mag as a blackjack...and then that begs the question, why would you be carrying a fully loaded magazine w/o toting the pistol as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 and then that begs the question, why would you be carrying a fully loaded magazine w/o toting the pistol as well? I don't know, I'm just sayin' my loaded big stick is a heavy little beastie... Ask PINMAN why he wants to bring a stick to a gunfight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Way to take things out of context guys... LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer-lock Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I was in an FBI lead firearms instructor course in the 80’s and many of the Israeli techniques mentioned here were demonstrated. We spent part of the shotgun week learning their condition 3 carry of the riot gun. The weapon was slung, muzzle down, on the off side with the magazine forward. The off-hand rests on the pump. Deployment is surprisingly fast in close quarters. And...there is hardly any stick bigger than that. David C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Dan Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Back in the 02' time frame we had an Israeli rifle company "visit" and train with us, which proved...interesting. Their commander told us that force protection is a critical aspect of everything they do due to the small size of their country, and the nature of the enemy they face on a daily basis, and this was reflected in the techniques they used. The pistol technique you speak of was developed with this in mind I'm sure. While most of us would find it much slower to have to rack the slide after the draw, I bet there are some "TGO" / Jerry Miculek types out there that could use the technique with "freak" like speed. Here's a u tube link demonstrating the technique... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Interesting curiosity, until the Ninja roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JON Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 "Contact" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Happy Yom Kippur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 The film clip illustrates what I implied...the condition 3 carry is what they do, but the slingshot slide racking and squat stance leave room for improvement...they did the last time I saw it in person in the 80s in Houston and they apparently still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Off topic a bit... Our newest member had some videos,,,including a draw, insert mag, rack and roll...two shots in 1.75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 We often run "two to the body, one to the head" at 8y in our local steel challenge match. Last match, me and a (USPSA)Master class shooter had 5 (of 10) runs between the two of us that were sub 1.25 seconds. I just missed another that which would have "parted the hair" of the target. I knew my ears were burning! Good point Flex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Happy Yom Kippur Thank you Chuck...although it is not generally considered appropriate to say "Happy Yom Kippur". Yom Kippur, or The Day of Attonement, is the most solemn holiday in the Jewish faith. And fwiw when I ankle carry my G26, I go Israeli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSEMARTIN Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 a draw, insert mag, rack and roll...two shots in 1.75 Might have been in the 1.4's if his slide racker was on the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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