cd0306 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Does anyone have any experience with this optic? I'm looking for feedback (pro, con ,or indifferent), prior to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaShooter Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I know scout 454 has been running one for a while. Send him a PM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 piper runs one. try him in a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't have any personal experience with this model. I have a 1.1-4 that I have had about 2 years that had something that looked like a black piece of thread develope in it three weeks ago. I called Cactus Tactical where I bought the scope and they referred me to IOR Factory Service in the US. I shipped the scope to them Priority mail overnight on a Monday and had it back repaired that Friday. Great people to do business with at Cactus and IOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I bought one for my Christmas present to me in Dec 2007,(Good price I thought, damn good price now), looking for a scope that would be a good compromise for up close and LONG shots. I think it is. Pros, Its damn nice to be able to see that plate at 300 yards + , and know that its a plate and not a dot, or blur, clarity is good, the horseshoe + dot requires some practise but I can double tap at 20yards, its about 0.5 sec slower for 3 targets at 20 yards for me, than a c-more mounted on a flat top, from port arms ,it seems to take me a little more time to find the dot, at first, the 1.5 magnification can screw with your mind, but once I get going it seems to be as quick, More practise would help, as with everything else about my shooting, the equipment is not the Major problem. Being a little slower up close is more than made up for me by being able to see the targets and hit them, at any distance, At mid range out to 100 yards or so it works as well as anything I've had, The variable adjustment is great, but it is a little stiff. I've not tested the distance hashmarks past 300 yards, yet, but they seem to work fine. With the rings it comes with , you can take it off and put it back on with out losing "0" . The elevation and windage adjustments work great, Repeatable. Cons The adjustment is a little stiff, a rat tail would help, the illumination is good at dusk but washs out in daylight, the dot is not as precise as a crosshair, but its not supposed to be, center dot is 1.5MOA at 100 at 8X, Center it on an 8in plate and watch it drop, its heavy at 1.75 lbs. Its set up for a 62 grain bullet,I shoot mostly 55's may make a difference at longer distances but I've not noticed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I messed with that one and the 2-12, and ended up buying the 2-12. I have had two 1.1-4, and just don't like the heavy horseshoe and wanted something else. The M8 is very nice; I wish they would put it on the 1.5-8 scopes. THe illumination on the IOR sucks during the day, but works fine at dusk or at night. Nice clear glass, backed by good folks here in the US. I still use a Meopta for my .223 Open and Tactical guns, though Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 The adjustment is a little stiff, The variable adjustment on Valdada scopes are stiff by design, they all come that way. What I have done with my scopes is to use a bit of silicone spray. I use the extension tube that comes with the spray can, spray it underneath the ring and then work the ring back and forth for a few moments. That allows the ring to move back and forth a bit easier. Just don't go crazy with the spray, a very little bit will work fine. Silicone spray spreads fast, so a 1 second burst should be sufficient. I like the 1.5-8 personally, my older eyes like the benefit of 8 power at distances while still having a wide fov at low power. I still use a first generation 1.1 - 4 with the 4 moa horseshoe and 15 mil lines for my main scope, but have played around with this one quite a bit (2-3 moa horseshoe and 62 gr bdc). I shoot mainly IMGA and understand the concept of the horseshoe - dot combination when getting rounds on paper. It works very well if you can wrap your mind around it. The feedback over the years on the reticle is either that people love the concept of the horseshoe or it does not work for them (seems to be no middle ground). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDMAN41 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I believe its a 35MM tube which may be a problem if your partial to specific mounts such as Larue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 It is a 35mm tube, the glass is outstanding and the clarity must be seen to be appreciated. Novashooter - tell them about picking up the guy fishing on the dam - a mile and a half away - at 1030 at night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd0306 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Thanks for the info. Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) Mike454, How bad does the illumination wash out ? I love my Meopta but would like a bit more power on distance - is the illumination something to be worried about ? Will you have yours at Benning ?? Benelli2 - Jeffy is this what you used to run a year or so back ? Edited September 7, 2008 by mike.45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Mike, It's the same scope that Jeff was using. The illumination washes out somewhat in bright sunlight although it's still a lot better than the illumination on a Leupold. It doesn't bother me because I don't shoot it like a dot so the black reticle suits me. I'll bring it the Benning and you can play with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Do you guys mount it directly on an A3 without rail extensions or risers? I have an IOR 1.1x-4x and have the rear of the scope line up with the charging handle. I wouldn't be able to do this without a Larue mount and they don't make them in 35mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Eric, I use an extended rail (A.R.M.S. or Hahn) and low rings for all of my rifles. This allows me to switch scopes at will. This worked out well with the IOR's 35mm rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Scout454, do you have a photo of that setup you could post? What is the height from the center of the rings to the top of the upper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaShooter Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 (edited) Scout 454 is not BS'ing::: picking up the guy fishing on the dam - a mile and a half away - at 1030 at night We were staying at my parents lake house in NC when we shot the CTI. We were hanging out late one night and I told him I want to check out what a $1200 scope looked like. Holy sheyooooot!! The dam is 1.5 miles from my parents place with lights on top of it. No joke at 2230 you could see a guy fishins plain as day. I need to save all my pennies for one of those. Hopefully Larue will eventually make a mount for this scope. Jayson Edited September 12, 2008 by NovaShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I'll get some pix out and measurements in a couple of days. Heading out of town in the morning and won't be back until Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMSI Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I used one for a couple of years in 3-gun. Very good glass, but for me it is heavy and big around, reticle is busy, can't see any red during daylight, dot is too big for long range and I couldn't remember to turn it off so battery was often out. I prefer a Trijicon Accupoint, and would like to have a new one with crosshairs and mildots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotm4 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Scout 454 is not BS'ing::: picking up the guy fishing on the dam - a mile and a half away - at 1030 at nightWe were staying at my parents lake house in NC when we shot the CTI. We were hanging out late one night and I told him I want to check out what a $1200 scope looked like. Holy sheyooooot!! The dam is 1.5 miles from my parents place with lights on top of it. No joke at 2230 you could see a guy fishins plain as day. I need to save all my pennies for one of those. Hopefully Larue will eventually make a mount for this scope. Jayson J-dawg, ADM makes rings for their mount that will fit a IOR 35mm....http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=44 Later, Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout454 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Nice Rob. Pricey, but nice. Will get photos out of the riser/QD ring setup I use in a couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELLFISH17 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I have this scope on one of my rifles and love it...very good retical and very good glass. I like the back of the scope even with the charging handle also and decided to try IOR's one piece scope mount in 35mm and that thing is very well made. I had to mount it past my reciever in the front but it is super solid and I'm happy with the height of it...not as high as Larues but close. I have a good photo of it if some one wants to email me I'll send it to them. sheldon_blackwell@candfsteel.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Here is a picture of the Valdada one piece mount. It is made in both 30 and 35 mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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