Carlos Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Like the "Colt" 1911, the design of the old CZ-75 is now in the public domain, meaning anyone can copy it. Great gun designs are often copied; lesser designs are relegated to the scrap heap of history. Here is yet another copy of the venerable CZ-75: LINK TO ARMSCOR CZ COPY Among the copies of the CZ - 75 have been: -Bren 10 -Springfield Armory P9 -Armalite AR-24 -Colt Z-40 -Tanfoglio -Sphynx -ITM 84S -IMI Jericho 941/baby desert eagle -Huglu -EAA Witness -Norinco NZ 40 -Star M30 And I am sure there are many other copies. As for the Armscor, I have not read any reports on its performance. But, like the Philippine copies of the 1911, you can rest assured that the design is perfectly sound, even if the exection might leave something to be desired. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gundry Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Wasn't the Colt Z40 actually a CZ? As in made by CZ for Colt... EEA = US importer of Tanfoglio. Not sure if they should be classified as a 'different' gun/manufacturer. Enough of my nit-picking - nice post, thanks for sharing the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 That is a tangfolio gun assembled in the Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Wasn't the Colt Z40 actually a CZ? As in made by CZ for Colt...EEA = US importer of Tanfoglio. Not sure if they should be classified as a 'different' gun/manufacturer. Enough of my nit-picking - nice post, thanks for sharing the info Not nit-picking at all; AND you are right! Colt's gun was made for them by CZ; about 800 were imported before Colt backed out & had severe money issues (they sold off a lot of stuff cheap at that time). Colt's gun had a 1911 grip angle, alloy frame, chromed mags, and was DAO only for the LEO market: here is a picture of the Colt: AND Tanfoglio is the actual maker of all the guns EAA sells as "witness" in the US. Trivia: they also manufacture the raw slide and frame for the Israel Military Industries (IMI) Jericho 941/baby desert eagle though the final machining is done in the holy land by IMI. The Springfield was also a Tanfoglio product, and the Armalite is made by Huglu - so there is duplication in my list as you note. Good catch on your part! Regards, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Hobdell Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Looks like armscor are buying parts from tanfoglio and asembling in PHL, it's mazing how many people sell they sell their parts to, for them to make the same gun under a different brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Hobdell Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I have one of those Z40's wish it was in a colt box though....... :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianH Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Springfield P9 was from Tanfoglio, as was the FIE TZ-75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I hope these CZish guns are built like the armscor 1911's. Great gun for the dinero. Not pretty but damn , they just keep working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 From their Website. http://www.armscor.com.ph/newprod.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV_shooter Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 JSL(Hereford) Ltd Spitfire Dornaus and Dixon Bren Ten IMI Jericho 941 ITM AT-88 Tanfoglio TZ-75, T-90, and T-95 Norinco NZ-75 Sphinx M2000 Springfield P9 Sarsilmaz M2000 Renato Gamba G90 EAA Witness Elite Gold Canik55 Pirhana, Shark Armalite AR-24 thats a lot of clones. really says something about their guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 They all look like Tanfoglio-produced guns: Map1FS = Combat-Standard with front cocking serrations and low profile rear sight. Map1MS = Carry-Standard, same mods as above. Mapp1 = Force 99 with front cocking serrations and low profile rear sight. Mapp1MS = Force Carry F Pro with different slide profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 (edited) I bet Armscor pistols are in fact Tanfoglio. It looks like a partnership between Eric Grauffel sponsor's. I also heard once that the first series of IMI Jericho were made by Tanfoglio. Edited November 20, 2007 by Julien Boit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 (edited) this looks a lot like the BUL Storm 9mm. A copy of the Tanfoglio combat. http://www.bultransmark.com/index2.htm Edited November 20, 2007 by Mo Hepworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gundry Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I bet Armscor pistols are in fact Tanfoglio. It looks like a partnership between Eric Grauffel sponsor's.I also heard once that the first series of IMI Jericho were made by Tanfoglio. If you go to Armscor's website, and click on their link for the Tanfoglio guns, it takes you directly to Tanfoglio's website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 legal in production Division? or does this have to be approved by the powers to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It would have to be approved by USPSA and IPSC. Not sure if it has been submitted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 For those of you that are fans of the design and like the P9, look here. Thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Why don't they put the rear sight all the way to the back??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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