Merlin Orr Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I have really been bearing down on my sight alignment..but..still invariably pull my second shot to the left. I am wondering if there is a magic bullet - or is it just something I am skipping on my fundamentals. I "think" I am consistently waiting for the front sight but have to wonder if I am just seeing a glowing green dot rather than a true sight picture on the second shot. Hoping someone might have fought and concurred this same thing... What am I doing? Is it grip or a sighting problem? I am thinking of going back to the plain black front sight and see if this helps. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Have you tried different trigger lengths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Have you tried different trigger lengths? Never thought about that possibility. I have big hands and use a medium curved trigger with my Limited gun.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Are you hitting center on the first shot? If so, do that again. Seriously, break it down. If you are paying attention to what is going on...your awareness will let you know what is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Shooting left is usually caused by position of finger on trigger, i know a chart exists for the explaination of this...but I dont know where to find it You have good computor fu grasshopper you can find it Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Are you hitting center on the first shot?If so, do that again. Seriously, break it down. If you are paying attention to what is going on...your awareness will let you know what is different. Pretty much the same..always. A-C...A-C .. A-C C is always left and usually a couple of inches lower than my first shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Merlin, I would second the thought of finding out where your finger position is on the trigger for the second shot. I just spent the last month shooting a glock with an 8lb connector and 8lb NY trigger spring (a little different than a 2lb 1911 trigger ) It gave me fits trying to shoot it with my normal trigger position. I was pushing the gun everywhere until I changed my finger position. As Jim was saying for you pushing left means not quite enough finger on the trigger. Maybe you are dropping that huge booger hook back off the trigger for the second shot. Good luck my friend, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 Merlin, I would second the thought of finding out where your finger position is on the trigger for the second shot. I just spent the last month shooting a glock with an 8lb connector and 8lb NY trigger spring (a little different than a 2lb 1911 trigger ) It gave me fits trying to shoot it with my normal trigger position. I was pushing the gun everywhere until I changed my finger position. As Jim was saying for you pushing left means not quite enough finger on the trigger. Maybe you are dropping that huge booger hook back off the trigger for the second shot. Good luck my friend, Craig I will try to be conscious of my finger position and see if I can determine where it is and if it is changing.... You are a true word smith, Craig.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Try pulling the trigger with your middle finger,not your index finger.If this works, work on your trigger finger. If not look at your grip pressure. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Left and low is classic milking. Often caused by trying to control thre recoil by gripping a bit harder with the strong hand. - Are you shooting form a modified iso stance? - Is your left hand providing most of the "grip"? 50% ? 60% ? 75% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonT Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Merlin, I would second the thought of finding out where your finger position is on the trigger for the second shot. I just spent the last month shooting a glock with an 8lb connector and 8lb NY trigger spring (a little different than a 2lb 1911 trigger ) It gave me fits trying to shoot it with my normal trigger position. I was pushing the gun everywhere until I changed my finger position. As Jim was saying for you pushing left means not quite enough finger on the trigger. Maybe you are dropping that huge booger hook back off the trigger for the second shot. Good luck my friend, Craig +1 Merlin, I think what you are describing is the exact same problem I was having and when I finally saw what I was doing the fix was easy. With an unloaded gun line up your sights on an object. Rest the gun on a table if you like because it's going to get heavy. sqeeze the trigger back over and over at different speeds but only take up the slack, just as far as you can go without the trigger breaking. While doing this watch what your front sight is doing. Much to my surprise I was pushing the whole gun slightly low and left with the end of my finger. Not having my finger far enough in the trigger guard and not pulling straight back. I also tightened my grip with my weak hand and loosened the strong hand so that my trigger finger was not under as much tension and then doing the same drill as above I would squeeze the trigger over and over while watching the front sight. When I could do this repetitively and keep the front sight from moving in any direction the problem was cured. If this is not the same problem that you are having, I wish you the best of luck in figuring out what's wrong. If this is the same thing that your doing and this post helps in anyway, Then I'm glad I could help and feel free to let me have a chance on the next 1911 that comes up in classifieds DonT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Sounds like the issues I have with grip pressure sometimes. Like others have said, when I overgrip with my stronghand that translates into pulling shots to the left. When I relax that a bit and increase grip pressure in my support hand it allows for less sympathetic muscle contraction in my stonghand and shots stay centered. Also, have you changed anything lately? Springs. loads, different gun, whatever? Matt's Timing Drills help me get back on track after alterations. HTH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P. Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Here is the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Here is the chart. Looks like his trigger finger is too little... I have had the same problem with my revolver. First shot was dead center and the next one would be low (instead of left). Reason was I took my timing for granted and pulled the trigger while compensating for recoil. Remedy: what Flex said. Make two identical shots, instead of one well aimed shot and a trigger pull while trying to keep your sights on the target. Hope this helps Edited November 2, 2007 by spook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear23 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Merlin, Since i've had my new 6" Bedell, i had the occasional 2nd shot left. Its all grip, i found i would relax my left hand too much, letting the front sight slip just a little too far left in the notch and let the shot go. Slow methodical traget transition drills have really helped. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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