mooster1223 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I guess the post says it all. I think I would rather buy one already done than buy a new smith hammer and potentially screw it up myself. Thanks, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 You can buy a stock hammer from Brownells for $45, and grind away. Randy Lee, http://www.apextactical.com/ you may need to call him, sells one for $150+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 (edited) randly lee hammer only works on frame mounted firing pin guns. Edited April 20, 2007 by cking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robopup Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 randly lee hammer only works on frame mounted firing pin guns. I believe Randy is coming out with a hammer firing pin version this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltermitty Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I guess the post says it all. I think I would rather buy one already done than buy a new smith hammer and potentially screw it up myself.Thanks, Jim In my humble opinion, it's easier (technically) to bob the hammer in your gun than it is to fit a new hammer (from Randy or elsewhere). Having said that, I like my Randy hammer pull more than my bobbed S&W hammer pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooster1223 Posted April 20, 2007 Author Share Posted April 20, 2007 (edited) I guess I should have clarified that this is for a 625. Edited April 20, 2007 by mooster1223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 If you order the bobbed hammer from Randy you can get it completely setup with the sear, sear spring, etc and all the pins. It will just drop in and work. I got mine without the pins and sear and just took those off my old hammer. Saved a little money. I do like the way Randy's works compared to the dremelized ones I've done in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffl Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Brownells sells both models of hammer for about 55.00 I am going to buy one in case I screw up the one in my gun. I hope to have it done for the IRC or maybe the ICORE match after the sunflower classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I do like the way Randy's works compared to the dremelized ones I've done in the past. Having said that, I like my Randy hammer pull more than my bobbed S&W hammer pull. Placebo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 [ Placebo! Mike, in all honesty mine work great but look like a drunken butcher did the job. Guys have been threatening me for years to take away my dremel. You on the other hand are an artist with that tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 You on the other hand are an artist with that tool. Why thank you! Aerosigns has a very nice touch also (although he needs to tone down the high-buff treatment so the sun doesn't glint in his eyes so much...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltermitty Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Placebo! Proven effective over 60% of the time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Placebo! Proven effective over 60% of the time!! It's all in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltermitty Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Placebo! Proven effective over 60% of the time!! It's all in your head. 90% of the game is half mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Placebo! Proven effective over 60% of the time!! It's all in your head. 90% of the game is half mental. Deja Vu, all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSEMARTIN Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Extreme Engineering is planning to produce a bobbed hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterj Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 mooster here's a pic of my 625 which I bobbed the hammer myself with a dremel. Having access to a bead blast cabinet,helps a bunch to get the finish to blend in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Scooter, Have thought about going a bit more aggressive on the cylinder chamfering? Check this out: Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41mag Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Scooter,Have thought about going a bit more aggressive on the cylinder chamfering? Check this out: Food for thought. I like it! I don't have any chamfering right now and am wanting to do my cylinder. Are there any problems associated with this amount of chamfer? http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...leitemid=821348 If the link works and you can see Midways PTG Revolver Deburring tool, Is that the tool I will need or could use easily? Another tool more suited? It comes in two sizes, 3/8 and 1/2 inch, 1/2" for the 625 right? Thanks for your time folks, 41mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 (edited) Be real careful. That tool won't give you the wide chamfer you see in the apex pix, it will only go so far (1/2") and then just widens the chamber mouth deeper. Use it to take the edge off and a bit more. Then use a Dremel and a polishing compound and bring it to a bright shine. The pix you see was probably done with a milling machine, allows a cutter to be angled into the chamber so it doesn't go too deep into the cylinder. Another thought is if you get too much chamfer on the Star, you may end up creating a sharp ledge that can grab the rounds. I saw a PC627 that had factory chamfer and it looked like a scallop from the outside in, with very little chamfer between holes. Saw another pix of a Randy Lee job that looked like that too. Edited April 27, 2007 by pskys2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granderojo Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Hey Nemo, nice cyllinder. Do you have a bobbed hammer? If so, would you post some pics please. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Click here, in that thread in The Gallery are some pics of my 625-3. I have some more in my office puter so next week I'll send you some more. It does have a bobbed hmr. Glad you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Be careful chamfering the chambers on the newer revolvers that use the shape of the extractor (rather than locator pins) to lock the extractor into place when the gun is being shot. Keep in mind the hand is pushing on the ratchet to push the index the cylinder around, if the fit gets sloppy the cylinder won't carry up correctly. This is the reason for the "scallop from the outside in" technique used by Randy and others. You can put plenty of chamfer on a 625, and it's a good idea, but be careful you don't compromise the timing (carry up) in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I don't know I'd venture to do a chamfering job myself. Maybe I'll use the 5-shot cylinder I took off my 25-2. Back to bobbed hammers. This one was bobbed initially by the S&W PC, then Randy touched it up a little. Because it's a hammer nose it can't go much lighter without eating into the notch where the nose is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Be careful chamfering the chambers on the newer revolvers that use the shape of the extractor (rather than locator pins) to lock the extractor into place when the gun is being shot. Keep in mind the hand is pushing on the ratchet to push the index the cylinder around, if the fit gets sloppy the cylinder won't carry up correctly. This is the reason for the "scallop from the outside in" technique used by Randy and others.You can put plenty of chamfer on a 625, and it's a good idea, but be careful you don't compromise the timing (carry up) in the process. I believe it is the flat side of the extractor shaft that keeps it centered. Theoretically, you can cut the legs off the extractor star and it will still keep time. That was the purpose of the design change away from the pins. But, I have been wrong before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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