Aircooled6racer Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Hello: I am looking for the best moonclip holder for IDPA and ICORE for a 646 40S&W. I would also like to know how many to buy? Also where to buy them. I was thinking 6. Let me know soon so I can get them coming, I have a all steel match that I may shoot the revolver in as well as my STI 2011. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffwalsh Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 go to moonclips.com they have everything you need and are great people too. Get 8 holders. 6 is a minimun but will work if you never miss.... Many shooters have 9 on their belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I purchase the moonclips from Ranch Products for ca $75 per 100. The same moonclip works for either the 646b or the 686 in 38 Super. I have used either the Blade Tec moonclip holders or the (name unknown) versions sold by Dillon. Moonclips.com has them on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) <snip>The same moonclip works for either the 646b or the 686 in 38 Super. <snip> Um.....you sure about that Supers are really loose in my 610 clips (don't ask , it was ugly) Edited February 23, 2007 by 10mmdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hello: I ended up getting the moonclip holders from Dillon. I ordered 6 but maybe should of got more? I am going to order the moonclips once I receive the 646 to see if it takes the early or late style clips. I guess they are different thinknesses. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hello: I ended up getting the moonclip holders from Dillon. I ordered 6 but maybe should of got more? I am going to order the moonclips once I receive the 646 to see if it takes the early or late style clips. I guess they are different thinknesses. Thanks Eric Which moon clips might depend on which brass you intend to use also, some 40's have thinner (or thicker) rims. Brownells lists 2 moon clips for the 646, .035 thk and .042 thk, due to this difference (or at least that's what they state anyway) S&B 40 brass looked to have the thickest rims when I did some measuring, can't remember who was the thinnest (Fed maybe ) I think I posted that info here awhile ago. Any way's, you might want to pick up a few of each thickness clips to see how they work and feel, but be aware that the thicker ones could give you trouble as they get used and are not as flat as they were when new. Good luck, and yes, get a few more holders when you get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 The Blade tech doubles can not be used for IDPA. Holder must protrude through the moon clip. The Cal Comp plastic center holders do not meet the rules either. Check Moonclip.com for his with the metal center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 The Blade tech doubles can not be used for IDPA. ......which is another sad, stupid rule. If anything, I think the Blade-Tech doubles (properly adjusted) are actually more practical for concealed carry than for competition use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 The Blade tech doubles can not be used for IDPA. ......which is another sad, stupid rule. If anything, I think the Blade-Tech doubles (properly adjusted) are actually more practical for concealed carry than for competition use. That is what I used with my 325PD Rules are rules I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogged Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hello: I am looking for the best moonclip holder for IDPA and ICORE for a 646 40S&W. I would also like to know how many to buy? Also where to buy them. I was thinking 6. Let me know soon so I can get them coming, I have a all steel match that I may shoot the revolver in as well as my STI 2011. Thanks Eric Speed-E-Rack deserves consideration. Try the address below for info and videos: http://www.speed-e-rack.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hello: I am looking for the best moonclip holder for IDPA and ICORE for a 646 40S&W. I would also like to know how many to buy? Also where to buy them. I was thinking 6. Let me know soon so I can get them coming, I have a all steel match that I may shoot the revolver in as well as my STI 2011. Thanks Eric Speed-E-Rack deserves consideration. Try the address below for info and videos: http://www.speed-e-rack.com No good for IDPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogged Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hello: I am looking for the best moonclip holder for IDPA and ICORE for a 646 40S&W. I would also like to know how many to buy? Also where to buy them. I was thinking 6. Let me know soon so I can get them coming, I have a all steel match that I may shoot the revolver in as well as my STI 2011. Thanks Eric Speed-E-Rack deserves consideration. Try the address below for info and videos: http://www.speed-e-rack.com No good for IDPA Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sinko Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 You can improvise and make your own holders for IDPA. I'm getting back into ESR and I plan to modify my California Competition Works holders for my 625. I'm going to either stick a piece of dowel down into the plastic part or remove the plastic altogether and go from there, whichever is faster. As long as there's some kind of post that sticks up, you'll be fine. The rules are getting silly. My 625 is my steady concealed carry gun and I use the unaltered CCW holders. They work fine for concealed carry and the moonclips never fall out, but nobody wants to hear that. Also, my old Blade-Tech holster is now illegal because you can see light through the belt tunnel. Not to worry! I took out the screws and re-fastened them without securing the backplate. Now I have an even more secure paddle holster with NO light coming through. You really don't have to spend more money on new equipment to accommodate the new rules! Dave Sinko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 You can improvise and make your own holders for IDPA. I'm getting back into ESR and I plan to modify my California Competition Works holders for my 625. I'm going to either stick a piece of dowel down into the plastic part or remove the plastic altogether and go from there, whichever is faster. As long as there's some kind of post that sticks up, you'll be fine.The rules are getting silly. My 625 is my steady concealed carry gun and I use the unaltered CCW holders. They work fine for concealed carry and the moonclips never fall out, but nobody wants to hear that. Also, my old Blade-Tech holster is now illegal because you can see light through the belt tunnel. Not to worry! I took out the screws and re-fastened them without securing the backplate. Now I have an even more secure paddle holster with NO light coming through. You really don't have to spend more money on new equipment to accommodate the new rules! Dave Sinko David, A short piece of 1/4OD soft vinyl tubing down the center of the Cal Comp plastic part works real well. Leave a 1/4" showing and you have a legal holder. Regards, Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Gary; I had thoughts of making some pins for the new holders from Dillon in my lathe. Now that you say that a piece of tubing will work and be legal I'm happy. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSchuler Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hello: I ended up getting the moonclip holders from Dillon. I ordered 6 but maybe should of got more? I am going to order the moonclips once I receive the 646 to see if it takes the early or late style clips. I guess they are different thinknesses. Thanks Eric You can only have 2 in front of the holster, and 1 behind center line of either side in IDPA. I use the Bladetech doubles (4) for IPSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I wish I had a pic but I dont. I can post one in about 2 weeks when I go home on leave. I use leather holders made by Backwoods leather in Portsmouth Virginia, Its a great design for IDPA, Not specifically mentioned but have never had an issue with it. The bullets face in primers straight out. It is a double pouch with tubing tension adjustments. a finger sized slot in each pouch. Bullets are covered by leather except at top which is open. To reload middle finger grabs clip which ends up in center of moonclip push it into cylinder. It works really well and am surprised the design isnt anywhere else. I think it's because moonclip holders are designed for longer .45 Acp and then modified or scaled to fit .40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKuhn Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Question Are Speed-E-Racks acceptable in USPSA matches? Mell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Question Are Speed-E-Racks acceptable in USPSA matches? Mell So far yes, you might want to check the proposed rules as to how far the reload can sit away from the belt/body. I think SPEED-E-Rack is still okay but best to ask the man that makes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Question Are Speed-E-Racks acceptable in USPSA matches? Mell They're just fine. No restrictions on ammo carriers in USPSA Revo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Question Are Speed-E-Racks acceptable in USPSA matches? Mell They're just fine. No restrictions on ammo carriers in USPSA Revo. I had to go re-check since I thought I saw a change here, The proposed 2008 shows a max of 1 inch between "mag" and "inner side of belt", 2004 Green book was 50mm (approx. 2") Now I've never seen a Speed-E-Rack so I have no idea if they comply with the proposed rules. I thought I saw a pic in a mag of sombody wearing some different moon clip holders that stuck out very far from the belt (could have been an IPSC shooter) and thought with my spare tire those might work pretty good That's why the change stuck in my brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) Don't know about the Ranch Product 610 moonclips however their 646 moonclips work in both my 646 and my 686 in 38 Super. I use Winchester brass on 40 S&W and Remington brass in 38 Super. <snip>The same moonclip works for either the 646b or the 686 in 38 Super. <snip> Um.....you sure about that Supers are really loose in my 610 clips (don't ask , it was ugly) Edited March 14, 2007 by TonyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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