19852 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 There is a upcoming IDPA match in my area and I want to use my new 1911. I have not classified in CDP. I am classified in ESP which is the division I compete most in. Can I use my 1911 .45 in ESP division? I believe I can, I just want to check. I know it is a liability compared to the 10+1 guns. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinkroe Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Yes you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisa006 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 YES, You give up rounds in the mag and also recoil control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 If you are a reloader...Download to about a 140 - 145 or so PF with a 12 lb. recoil spring and shoot away. Works great and ..depending on the stage setup..you may not give up anything using 8 rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Or use 9 round mags that fit into the box and start with 10 in the gun. A 1911 shooting a 200 gr SWC at 675-700 fps is really soft shooting. Makes really big holes too. Plus it just drives the IDPA Purists crazy. I do it on occasion when I know some of the Tactical Teds are going to be at a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 You don't say whether it's a sanctioned match. If it's a club match, you can shoot CDP using your ESP classification(rulebook page 72). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19852 Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Yes, it is a sanctioned match. So no, my ESP classification won't work. Were do you get 9 round .45 mags? I thought 8 was it, at least for flush fit. Thanks for the help everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 (edited) You don't get 9-round .45 magazines, you make 9-round .45 magazines. They don't have to fit flush, they just have to let the gun fit The Box with magazine seated. Joe D. did the first I have seen by cutting off 10-round mags until they would just fit The Box. I had my 'smith make up some likewise. His have flanges bent onto the tubes to hold some sort of slide on floorplate-basepad, mine have the original (Metalform) floorplates silver soldered in place and dipped in Plastisol to give a little cushion for the reload without adding much length. Edited February 9, 2007 by Jim Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Eric (Aircooled) made some trick .40s by the same method.. I do believe he loads 10 in an IDPA box legal mag...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Merlin: I have to thank JoeD for the info. My mags will also hold 9 rounds of 45 and fit in the box as well. I actually have 1/8 of extra space. They are my way of getting closer to the Glocks--- right Joe ;-). Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 The real trick for ESP is a wide body .45 loaded to 10+1 with 200g swc and a PF of 135. Super soft, no recoil, BIG HOLES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Singlestack: It sounds like you have been talking to Merlin! I also shoot a STI 2011 in ESP but it is a 40. Using a 155 grain bullet with a power factor of 131 or so, it is great. Softer than factory 9mm and larger holes. The single stack 40 is great as well with 10+1 or 9+1 or 8+1. Thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 The real trick for ESP is a wide body .45 loaded to 10+1 with 200g swc and a PF of 135. Super soft, no recoil, BIG HOLES. Been trying to work up my nerve for one of these. I have a barrel and slide on the shelf but nobody to assemble them on a suitable lower. I guess I could sell them and buy an Eagle, probably work out about the same net cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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