jostein jensen Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I'm a rookie shooter so I need some advice... I'm waiting on my Edge and I know I will need a big button to reach it without changing my grip, and I suck at that. I've read a lot of things against big buttons regarding table starts, mishaps with mags releasing when they shouldn't and weak hand shooting. I was toying with the idea of moving the button to the other side, if it can be done. I think I can be much faster with the index finger on the button on the other side, than my thumb is on the "right" (left ) side. Can it be moved to the other side on an STI and is it a big job? do any of you have experience with the index finger technique? Lefties, please share as this is mostly your field I guess... thanx in advance Jostein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott R Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Here is one http://bulletworks.com/Mag_catch.html and I am sure there are others that could be found with a little searching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I'm waiting on my Edge and I know I will need a big button to reach it without changing my grip, and I suck at that. You may be trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing. Lots a great shooters (and thousands of mediocre ones) shift their grip for mag changes. I have big hands and still shift my grip, I think I'd need a really long paddle button or another 1/2" of thumb if I didn't want to shift my grip. Just an FYI, I'm one of the mediocre shooters out there, but I'm busting my butt to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Here is one http://bulletworks.com/Mag_catch.html and I am sure there are others that could be found with a little searching. In the video it looks like an AD waiting to happen... at least it would be for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I know quite a few people using them, in fact, the wifey has one on her Edge......with her small hands, it makes it easier for her.....and I get the benefit of it being "normal" since I'm a lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) I used one on a singal stack for 10 years it was a Smith & Alexander Jamie Edited February 1, 2007 by AlamoShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half inch groups Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I shoot lefty and I love the fat release on the left side. If you use your index finger to release the mag, your finger cant be near the trigger so I dont see how switching it over for right handers would be asking for DQ's if they switched it up... but then again I'm not right handed, but when I practice righty, my thumb is killing after 20 minutes and my reloads are SLOOOWW.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 The RO's see your finger - not -out so they think you have it in the trigger guard. I went back to a regular one, as with my grip sanded my hand sqweezed the girp so hard that the mag would not drop untill I let up on my grip. = It was eazyer to just go with the norm and use my thumb. I think it is faster at get the mag -out- my problem was & is getting the mag IN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I used a S&A ambi release on my Para. I tried using one because I was having issues with accidentally releasing the mag with my support hand when my palm would brush against the standard mag release when the gun recoiled. Figuring right side release would probably work better, nope. The button ended up brushing up against my middle finger on my right hand and continued to drop mags. In the end, back to using a left side release with an extra heavy spring. I didn't have an issue with using the right side release due to the fact I got started in shooting with an HK and always used the trigger finger to release the mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin40 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I shoot lefty and I love the fat release on the left side. If you use your index finger to release the mag, your finger cant be near the trigger so I dont see how switching it over for right handers would be asking for DQ's if they switched it up... but then again I'm not right handed, but when I practice righty, my thumb is killing after 20 minutes and my reloads are SLOOOWW.. +1 I love using the trigger finger for the reload. Your finger can't be on the trigger if its hitting the mag release. Its fast hitting the release with your index finger too. If you a right hander and want to switch to that mag release you'll run into a problem down the road which is why most don't switch. You'll eventually be shooting a gun that you can't modify or they don't make a part to allow you to switch the release. So now you have to learn how to use that thumb. So why not just learn from the get go. I'm not sure about in Production division but I imagine you can't modify the release or it would make the Production gun Illegal. Flyin40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostein jensen Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 thanks for all the replies folks. I guess I will just have to learn the flip-thing to reach it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPoLo Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Can it be moved to the other side on an STI and is it a big job? The one that Bulletworks sells is extremely simple and easy to install. Five minutes, tops. -Chet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I guess I will just have to learn the flip-thing to reach it.. This is what most people do. I can't think of one R/handed GM that uses the trigger finger to hit the mag release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I would use one, but I don't want to confuse my day job training. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Day job?? I don't really have a day job sir. I think too many people worry about changing thier grip durring a mag change. If you watch the top shooters you will notice almost all of them shift the pistol a little to change a mag. A great example of this is the picture on the cover of Matt's DVD of him "looking in" a mag change. you will notice the gun has been shifted a bit. Now I'm no top shooter by any means, but I shift the heck out of my pistol doing a mag change and I can usually do a mag change in 1.25-1.5 seconds. Yea it aint a 1 second load, but it is very consistent. I wouldn't worry about it and just do a bit of dry practice. Enjoy your new pistol! Kurt Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 This was posted in another thread regarding shifting of the gun. http://www.doublealpha.biz/shop/images/3GM...228af52cdadc571 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckc123 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Jostein: This is the exact technique I use.. I'm a right handed shooter, but my mag release is also on the right.. I use my middle finger to release the mag.. and I don't even use the end of my finger,, I use the "pad" which is closest to the palm (Eg, between the knuckle and first joint).. All I do is squeeze my middle finger, and the mag pops out.. no thumb changes (it stays on the safety. No change in grip etc.) it's a bit rough on the hand at first, but once you have a good tough spot built up on you hand it's easy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashdown Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I use the Mitchell right side mag release as well. When I go for a mag change, my index finger rides along the frame and my middle finger rides against the bottom of the trigger guard. This puts the mag release button on the first segment of my middle finger. The spring is light enough that it doesn't take much force to release the mag. No worries on table starts either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredfest Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I use my trigger finger for mag release. Im a lefty and it works though not as fast as anyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPoLo Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) I use my trigger finger for mag release. Im a lefty and it works though not as fast as anyone else What is it with "Shreds" and lefties...? -Chet Edited February 19, 2007 by DJPoLo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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