Religious Shooter Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Good match. I'd like to make a request in the rules that HM do away with: 8.4.2 Shotguns cannot use reduced recoil slugs, minimum 500 power factor. Neither the of the two biggest IMGA matches (SMM3G and RM3G) or USPSA require this. 8.4.3 Pistols shall be .44 or larger or make minimum 175 power factor. (Single stack guns and revolvers are encouraged.) I can see the reasoning for this... but if you have to have a PF how about the standard 165? I'd rather not have to load different rounds or buy different slugs for this match. I know the match is special and all... but it would be nice if the rules were more like the other matches. Thank you for your consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Those rules are for Heavy Metal Class only. You want to shoot heavy metal, shoot HEAVY metal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Are you saying that the other matches and org aren't shooting HM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 SMM3G went to allowing .40 cal guns and no polymer frame, read no Glocks. So yeah, I wouldn't call that heavy metal. And mouse fart slugs in a HM division, nope, I don't think that is what the division was designed for either. I've seen lots of guys use B&P slugs in HM. These things won't even function 95% of autoloaders they're so light, but they're perfect for "heavy metal" As far as the pistol, it should be higher. It's a different Division, like super major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Yo Tinkerbell, it's called Heavy Metal for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Just so ya know. Every match, every shot, major caliber and then some. 308 Rifle Georgia Arms 168's and Nato Ball. Pump PMC and or Fiocchi Full power slugs. 45acp CCI 230 Blazer Ball. I have performed.....let us just say OK with the combinations. I do feel that CHRONOGRAPHING ought to be employed at ALL MAJOR matches. Either you is or you ain't MAJOR! I find it ODD that full power slugs are REQUIRED and nothing is verified. I hate the dam things in a pump gun!!!! How about we just use what IPSC uses. 520 PF for shotguns. Major is major. Patrick (if i tried i bet i coulda made major use of the word MAJOR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Don't you guys see a problem with having to reammo/retool in HM depending on what match you have to shoot? HM shooters have to pony up more $ for ammo and have to put up with more recoil as it is. Why does this match have to make things more difficult and even more expensive? I mean look at SMM3G with their pistol rules. How many people liked it when they allowed .40 and only allowed 1911's? If a number of people didn't like that... why is this match basically doing the same thing by going against what the majority of the other matches do? How about some consistency? Isn't having more shooters participating by having less roadblocks a good thing? ...Oh well. Remington Managed Recoil slugs say they do 1200 fps. 1200x437.5/1000=525pf. Can I use these slugs since they (may) make PF out of my gun? Or just because they are "managed recoil" I can't use them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Vould the Monsieur like some cheese with his whine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Sure... but I would prefer consistency in the the HM rules better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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