Ron Ankeny Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 I just got back from the range and I am pumped. I finally shot two really good El. Pres'. back to back with my limited pistol. Each one was under five seconds. Mind you, this was informal practice and not in a match. OK, so you fast B, A, and Master class shooters scratch your heads and say, "Big deal. What's with this guy?" Well, I have been stuck at 5.1-5.2 seconds (best runs) for over a year and a half. I have never (ever) shot an El Pres in five seconds or less. I am especially pleased because this breakthrough came from vastly improving my target transitions, not because of an exceptionally fast draw or reload. I reviewed the timer and the first run was: 1.59 draw (don't laugh) .13 split .24 transition .16 split .23 transition .15 split 1.51 reload (ok you can laugh at the reload) .17 split .26 transition .14 split .23 transition .15 split Total time was 4.96 seconds down three. Wow, I never would have thought I could do that cold. Hmmm...can I do it again? Second run was: 1.43 draw .15 split .22 transition .15 split .22 transition .16 split 1.44 reload .16 split .24 transition .15 split .25 transition .15 split Total time 4.72 down two. Yeah, I know the turning draw is slow and the reload needs improvement. I also know that I can not reliably sustain that rate of fire on demand. Still, I met my goal and I know that if I "actualize trust" my "best is good enough". That's a great feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 First run = 11.5 hf Second run = 12.3 hf LIMITED!!! Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Really the only improvement available is in draw and reload. Thats high A-Master shooting. Get your reload down to 1 sec and your draw a couple tenths and look at what top dogs at Nationals shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Man...I think his last run is over 100% for OPEN! Ron could tune up the draw and relaod (i don't know that I copuld)...but, damn...those splits and transition rock. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Can't ask for splits or transitions any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 i'm sure it's been asked before, but how do you get to those .24 second transitions? I am at least double that at El Prez range. (Edited by twix at 3:04 pm on Aug. 18, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Those runs are 97% and 104% of the High OPEN classifier scores. Leo (Edited by L9X25 at 9:15 pm on Aug. 18, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedaddy Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Ron, your doing great! I'll bet you gave 'em what for at the annual Ditch Run this weekend too! You'll be getting a well deserved Master card before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Man those are SMOKING times. Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted August 19, 2002 Author Share Posted August 19, 2002 ...and today I go to a shoot and absolutely "tank" three out of the four special classifiers. I had "C" class shooters kicking me around, bummer. I don't know if I am in the early stage of burn out or what, but I didn't even want to shoot and I don't know why I even bothered to go. Twix: I recently took a class from Ron Avery and he had us do a "counting drill". I have been doing the drill for about a month. Set three targets out to ten yards, one yard apart. Draw and shoot two on each target by counting one thousand one, one thousand two, etc. That yields one second splits and one second transitions. Do this several times. Then run the drill counting one and two and three and four, etc. This gives .5 second splits and .5 second transitions. The drill is then repeated several times. Then run it while counting one, two, three, four, in a fashion that yields .25 splits and transitions. It works like reducing par time drills. It will amaze you how easy it is to get .25 splits when you "sneak up" on them. Avery swears by this training method, but others swear at it. There is a good discussion on target transitions here: http://www.brianenos.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard...1&topic=188 There is also a discussion on Avery's drill here: http://www.brianenos.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard...=5&topic=65 Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 nice work, Ron twix, by being very aggressive moving the gun, in dry fire and practice. And there's some very fine, subconscious stuff going on, riding the recoil over to the next target, prepping the trigger, seeing the A zone, refocusing back to front sight. Good for .19-.25 transitions on these types of arrays at 10 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Zee Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 does anyone have dry fire drills for transitions/tracks, I have tried Matts drill out but I am burnt out on that.... Any new ones around. Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 I forgot to say thanks to Ron and Eric. Thanks. Major work ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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