IVC Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) A quick technical question for Level 2 and up matches. At our local Level 1 match last Saturday a shooter shot the last plate of a Texas Star at a perfect 6 o’clock position. The plate dislodged and fell on the front foot of the contraption, but was still leaning against the back of the star’s arm so it was still close to vertical. The rule says plates “must fall to score.” The plate fell. Sort of. Is this an REF and if so, would you consider it differently if the plate wasn’t touching the arm? Just want to know in case it happens to me either as a shooter or as an RO (in this case, the RO scored it as a hit, nobody was going to lose sleep over it). Edited November 12, 2019 by IVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Because of this (and other) problems you will not see many stars at >L1 USPSA matches. Way too many opportunities for REF reshoots. I just call my shot and move on. It the plate wiggles, I have done my part. If it doesn't fall, REF. The Pala RO was correct! Hit! Edited November 12, 2019 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadside72 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 If it's dislodged from the arm then it fell IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 It fell in this particular scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVC Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, ChuckS said: The Pala RO was correct! Hit! I didn't say "Pala," but clearly it's obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, IVC said: I didn't say "Pala," but clearly it's obvious... I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCH Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Was it free of the retention mechanism? The way I am picturing what you wrote would be the same as a regular plate falling off the base after being hit, and then leaning up against the base. If the plate was free from the retention, no REF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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