B_RAD Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Showed a friend my LP last night. Told him there was another Tanfo (S3) that has the same length barrel/slide and was heavier. He said he wanted one for IDPA. I told him with all the new parts coming out for these it MIGHT be possible. No after market base pads. He'll need the PD guide rod. Smaller single thumb safety. Stock FP. Stock FPB. Stock wood grips. What does a magazine weigh with stock base pad? Anyone know what a bine stock S3 w/mag weighs? I think it'd be funny to show up to an IDPA match with a S3 and it be leagal. Talking SSP so no lighting of the frame/slide. You think its possible? Edited January 25, 2017 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Also, might consider removing the adjustable rear sight and using a fixed rear if you can get away with that. Might save a few fractions of an ounce. Edited January 25, 2017 by ryridesmotox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) I'll weigh my pig however you need, as soon as I find a scale it isn't too heavy for. Edited January 25, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hav3n Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Not possible just because it like the Stock I and II has a cone barrel which is not legal in any IDPA division at those lengths. Quote Rule 8.1.8 C - Non-IDPA-Legal Features and Modifications for All Divisions Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing except as allowed in ESP, CCP, BUG and CDP divisions with length restrictions. That's why the Lim Pro is legal - it now fits the box with the new beavertail and it has never had a cone barrel. I'm wrong. I always thought the stock 3 had a cone barrel like the other 'Stock' guns. Edited January 25, 2017 by hav3n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 The S3 does NOT have a cone barrel. Its the same same length as the Lim Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hav3n Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, B_RAD said: The S3 does NOT have a cone barrel. Its the same same length as the Lim Pro. Fixed. Let me know. That'd be awesome to get a S3 for IDPA. With the longer beavertail style you might have trouble fitting the box along with the weight problem. Edited January 25, 2017 by hav3n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, hav3n said: Fixed. Let me know. That'd be awesome to get a S3 for IDPA. With the longer beavertail style you might have trouble fitting the box along with the weight problem. Well, I might be pissing in the wind but I didn't think it had the longer beavertail. My understanding is that is the same beavertail as the Lim Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I can't imagine it making weight. If the LP barely makes weight, how is a S3 with a full length dust cover going to make it? Per BSPS the S3 is 43 oz. I assume that is with out a magazine. So you'll need to find a way to shave off whatever a mag weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Guide rod from PD will shave 3/4 oz. Lava grips will shave a couple 10ths. Rear sight is 1oz. So a fixed will shave 1/2 oz . 9mm is the heaviest. Running a 40 will be lighter due to the larger hole in the barrel. Also, you can run 10mm mags which are (iirc) 1/2 oz lighter as they dont have the spacer in the back. Listed weight is the same 44.8oz for all calibers, but the scale shows differences. but, with all the "dieting", it might sqeak under 43oz. Edited January 25, 2017 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Someone really needs to make a fixed rear sight for Tanfoglio. I'd buy one just for the increased durability, and weight savings would probably sell a lot of them to LP owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 two questions. 1. Johnbu - are lavas lighter than the stock wood grips? They seem extremely light. Can't imagine anything being lighter. 2. Anyone know what the cut is for the rear? I know jack crap about sight cuts but it looks like the rear sight is just like every other adj rear sight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Weights on my guns (stock grips) with Shock bottle basepad and magazine: Stock 2: (old style): 39.7 Oz Stock 2: (new style): 40.1 Oz Limited (40 cal): 41.3 Oz Stock 3: 41.7 oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Twinkie said: Weights on my guns (stock grips) with Shock bottle basepad and magazine: Stock 2: (old style): 39.7 Oz Stock 2: (new style): 40.1 Oz Limited (40 cal): 41.3 Oz Stock 3: 41.7 oz Well, that makes weight! That has to be a typo? Have you replaced a lot of parts? My Lim Pro weighs more than that. Edited January 25, 2017 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Something is off, twinkie. Stock 2 40sw with henning pad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Totally stock ....S2 in 40sw. Is 42.0 oz factory base pad. Edited January 26, 2017 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 My notes may be off or my scale. All I know is the differences between the guns were what I was after. I can't re-measure since I don't have a weed kitchen scale and had to borrow one. The interesting thing to me was that the Limited wasn't really any heavier than the Stock 2 and if you want the heaviest Tanfoglio you can get outside the Hunter then get a Stock 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Twinkie said: ... if you want the heaviest Tanfoglio you can get outside the Hunter then get a Stock 3. My buddies (who shoot SP-01 Shadows not flyweight plastic) pick up my gun and go "holy crap this is heavy!"... So far the nose-heavy balance has either been a love it or hate it kind of thing. Edited January 26, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 This is more of a novelty for the guy. It's a look thing. My LP will be at the edge of the weight limit so the S3, if under 43 oz, won't be any heavier. So, I called John Harrison w/Harrison designs. He makes sight to fit I. The Tanfo cut (LPA). He said it weighs 1.1 oz. Anyone know what the factory adj sight weighs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Took off the rear sight. Zeroed with the bag on the scale, added the rear sight. 1.0oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 So, Harrison's sight isn't a weight savings. I called Dawson. They don't make anything for the LPA in a fixed sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Call Henning... See if these will fit in the stock3 slide. http://henningshop.com/products/tanfoglio-fixed-target-sight-for-match-model-h104t-m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelsonAK Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 My 9mm S3 is 41.7oz with no magazine. For what it's worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, KelsonAK said: My 9mm S3 is 41.7oz with no magazine. For what it's worth... Pic or it didn't happen. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelsonAK Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Pic. No magazine. Titan, BOLO, Henning guide rod, one piece sear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, KelsonAK said: Pic. No magazine. Titan, BOLO, Henning guide rod, one piece sear. Sweet! thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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