Ray_Z Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I can shoot a whole match and my gun only gets a little warm. I used Winchester WSF to load some test loads with 147gr 9mm and I could feel the heat coming off the gun after 10 rounds. 9mm luger 147gr RSR plated bullets 4.1gr Winchester WSF 1.12 COL No pressure signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Does it have nitro in it like TiteGroup? TG will melt the FO rod right off the front of a pistol over time. Gun was always super hot after a stage with TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Switch to -- WST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) The loads I'm going for are with 147gr copper coated bullets in the 9mm. Nothing I've got shows loads for for that heavy bullet. Edited January 17, 2017 by Ray_Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Published load data for WST doesn't exist, well it's not published any longer but in the past it has been provided by Winchester. To that end, I ran 3.6gr of WST at 1.135 under a Bayou 147 in 9mm, giving me 128PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G T Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 hours ago, SCTaylor said: Published load data for WST doesn't exist, well it's not published any longer but in the past it has been provided by Winchester. To that end, I ran 3.6gr of WST at 1.135 under a Bayou 147 in 9mm, giving me 128PF. I am running 3.7 under a 124/5 sns coated for 132pf out of a CZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Umm, compared to other powders at the same PF shooting just as fast? All I know is TG heats everything up more than any other powder I have used, and WSF hasn't even been close to that. Note: 4.1gn is a max load for jacketed bullets in one manual. 3.9g is max for lead and plated in one manual and 3.8gn was max for Berry's plated bullets in another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 3:17 PM, Sarge said: Does it have nitro in it like TiteGroup? TG will melt the FO rod right off the front of a pistol over time. Gun was always super hot after a stage with TG. Hey Sarge I really don't know if it has nitro in it or not. I've looked every place I know of and can't find any reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Z Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 hours ago, noylj said: Umm, compared to other powders at the same PF shooting just as fast? All I know is TG heats everything up more than any other powder I have used, and WSF hasn't even been close to that. Note: 4.1gn is a max load for jacketed bullets in one manual. 3.9g is max for lead and plated in one manual and 3.8gn was max for Berry's plated bullets in another. On 1/17/2017 at 8:42 AM, SCTaylor said: Published load data for WST doesn't exist, well it's not published any longer but in the past it has been provided by Winchester. To that end, I ran 3.6gr of WST at 1.135 under a Bayou 147 in 9mm, giving me 128PF. I use 3.9 of solo 1000 to drive my 124's to 130 and I never feel heat coming off the gun after a stage with that stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcalvert Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 WST with 125gr BBI at 1.120 gives me 127pf and smokes less that TG. also good in .40 and .45 loads dcalvert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 WST with 125gr BBI at 1.120 gives me 127pf and smokes less that TG. also good in .40 and .45 loads dcalvert Guns and grains?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcalvert Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3.7gr 1.120 oal = 126 pf in my 5" XD Tactical Barsto barrel, 3.9gr 1.120 oal = 134 pf in my 5" STI with SV barrel. dcalvert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Wow. Thanks D. I got no where near those numbers with similar length and powder load. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Not happy to hear this. I hate Tightgroup because of the heat and bought both Winchester powders to try one day. I'd bet WSF is a double base powder. Very few pistol powders are single base to my knowledge. I think Solo 1000 is single base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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