jstagn Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Heard of EMI interference. There is now a filter for the case feeder, what about the MBF motor? Does the Mark7 require a different (stand alone) electric circuit to minimize EMI. Would be interested in current owners set up before I order one. Also not considering the price difference, compare to the Ammobot. Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I installed the EMI filter on the case feeder as a final measure. Prior to that I mostly separated power sources with power strips and put ferrite beads from Amazon on the cables. After the EMI filter, no more problems. Wasn't all that big a deal when it did happen, not like you wouldn't be able to load - IF you were even affected by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks for the info, do you use the their optical device that checks to insure that the old primer is pushed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I have everything plugged into one power strip. Including the RT1500 and I don't have EMI issues. I do have the magnet thing on the cord for something, I don't remember what and I have the filter on the Mr. BF. I have the optical sensor and I wouldn't want to load without it but I load only 9mm and .223 both have crimped primers that are prone to being pulled back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It is very handy when decapping 9mm and 223 for me. If the primer wasn't detected it can mean that the primer was sucked back in to the primer pocket and is on it's way to being swaged deep into the primer pocket and perhaps even re-primed (!!!). Less obviously, it can mean that there wasn't a primer to be decapped. Why is this? I thought about it and this might be an indication of a loose primer pocket - I see it in 223 and 9mm, but have never had a problem with primers falling out of 9mm cases. Maybe a case from a 9Major load? Who knows, they seem to work just fine for now but in the future I might scrap those cases. Currently I am pre-processing BOTH 223 and 9mm brass. Once preprocessed all the brass is decapped so I just turn off the optical primer sensor for the loading session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 What size beads did you use and where on the cables? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Caveat: I are not an electrical engineer. I bought an assorted pack from amazon and put an appropriately sized on every cable I could find. I think it was this one: http://www.amazon.com/AUCH-20Pcs-Ferrite-Suppressor-Diameter/dp/B016XE2BS0/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1459201370&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=freeite+bead In hind sight I think much larger ferrite beads that take multiple loops specifically targeted at things like the case feeder cable or perhaps the power strip and tablet cables would be a better plan. Then again the case feeder is close to the tablet and perhaps the beads helped or perhaps they did absolutely nothing. Hard to say, I didn't do precise testing and was making a lot of changes. The Mark 7 EMI filter installed in the case feeder addressed my issue, but I left everything else in place (ferrite beads, multiple power strips/sources).. Edited March 28, 2016 by Beastly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks to all that answered. Ordering Mark 7 tomorrow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Proceed with confidence. I LOVE mine. Mark 7: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icestud Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 What is the EMI interference? and is this only when using an automated loader? or are there advantages to the EMI filters for case feeders and bullet feeders on a manual run s1050? Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Some people (like me) experienced intermittent Android tablet resets that appear to correlate back to the Dillon case feeder. The workaround was to simply select "Reloader", "Accept" and "Run". Not a big deal, it didn't really slow me down much. Installing the Mark-7 supplied EMI filter (an easy 3-wire operation) inside the case feeder solved the problem for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 This is purely limited to interference from the casefeeder causing the tablet on the mk7 to reset. No benefit to an emi filter for a manual 1050 with case and bullet feeders. It's a specific issue to the mk7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icestud Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Thanks for the explanation and reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I have the EMI filter installed in case feeder and will still get a very occasional reset. I use this machine for case prep and probably run about 5K/week so it gets a decent workout. I may try the ferrite filters for the heck of it. Keep in mind when this does happen you have to recalibrate the machine which means removing in-process cases. Not a huge deal for me and overall the Mark 7 has been running great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Have you isolated your power sources? If you do the ferrite bead thing get really big ones and put multiple cable loops through the bead. This is supposed to be more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weber Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Those of you who are running the Mark 7 on a 1050 for 223 brass prep, what dies are you using? I was planning on running a universal decapping die, then the dillon trimmer trim/size die, and the a regular sizing die for expanding the case mouth. For heavy brass prep what are you using and what would you recommend? I also plan to use this setup for 308, and 300 blackout as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Basically what you said. I use an M-die for expanding the case mouth, especially for flat base bullets. For modest quantities of 300 Blackout I have the older RT1200 and have used the GSI 2-pass size/trim dies successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weber Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have the older 1200 as well, and for blackout I have the ch4d trim size die as they were the only one who made them at that time. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradsteimel Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Some people (like me) experienced intermittent Android tablet resets that appear to correlate back to the Dillon case feeder. The workaround was to simply select "Reloader", "Accept" and "Run". Not a big deal, it didn't really slow me down much. Installing the Mark-7 supplied EMI filter (an easy 3-wire operation) inside the case feeder solved the problem for me. Maybe i'm missing something, but when i get the EMI reboot, i'm forced to clear all the stations, hit Calibrate, and the start over. Big PINTB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) It happened to me today for the first time. It sucked! Will install the EMI filter in the morning. Edited April 29, 2016 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weber Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It happened to me today for the first time. It sucked! Will install the EMI filter in the morning. Did yours come with one? I have had it happen once, not sure if it was the case feeder or the trimmer motor that caused it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yes, but I never installed it. It said only if needed. And I think now it is needed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) 3 reboots this morning with case filter installed. Edited May 1, 2016 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Separate power sources to different outlets/power strips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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