mikeAZ Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Looks like I have the wrong insert (S&W 625) for my DAA Racemaster holster when it's set up for my 929.... Occasionally, the 929 won't come out of the holster or it's way difficult to withdraw . I finally did a little research and it seems "they" offer 2 models now, one for the 625 and one for the 686 and all are magnetic now instead of the "old" style which I have. I found a article about why the switch to the magnetic version of the insert and it was exactly the same problem I have. ( The sharp edge of the trigger guard pushes the plastic slide down part before it is supposed to).... SO, for the experts out there is the "N" frame on the 929 the same as the 686 OR is it like the 625?. Maybe someone has had a similar problem???, We you able to "fix" the old style insert? (I really don't like the magnetic stuff).... Edited March 5, 2016 by mike NM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) My "625 magnetic" insert fits my: 625 multiple 627s multiple 327s 929 will fit 686 ( will fit loose ) Maybe some hand filing of problem contact areas inside the block are in order. Edited March 5, 2016 by alecmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan454 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I have the newer style and I believe it was simply marked N frame. It fits my 625 and multiple Rugers. Appears to be pretty flexible on fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg K Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The 686 is an "L" frame. The 625 and 929 are "N" frames. I used to use a AA Racemaster that was the old style and they sometimes needed a little extra fitting. I got sick of it never drawing consistent and quit using it. Maybe the new style is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) My N frame insert (magnetic style) needed some minor filing to fit my 929. It fit every other N frame I had (627 PC, 627 V Comp, 629s, 625) fine. The front of the 929 trigger guard was maybe .003 or .03 thicker than the others. Once I fixed that with a little , I realized the sliding insert was not well shaped and was actually binding on the side of the trigger itself. This kept my guns from snugging into the block as well as they could. Fixed that by relieving a small section of that block and now all my guns fit the holster better. I'll take pics tomorrow if you're interested. Edited March 5, 2016 by peterthefish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpr17 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I have the N frame magnetic insert (box labeled 625) for my 929. The gun rocks slightly in the holster but stays put. I contacted CED just last month who subsequently reached out to Saul K with my question about it being a little loose. Saul assured me it was the correct insert and that it was secure. If I wanted greater security I could add the muzzle support but said I really don't need it. As long as I take care to seat the gun and lock it when reholstering, I haven't had a problem. I love the holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 My 625 insert fots every N frame I have. Old style non magnetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 My 625 daa racer (not race master) fits my 929 fine with no fitting or filing of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeAZ Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Peterthefish, pictures would be nice, I didn't want to mess with the fix till I had some input...Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Mike I will try to remember pics tomorrow. But assuming you have another N frame that fits and some calipers, start by measuring the widths of the front of the trigger guards. I think you'll find the problem starting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 My N frame insert (magnetic style) needed some minor filing to fit my 929. It fit every other N frame I had (627 PC, 627 V Comp, 629s, 625) fine. The front of the 929 trigger guard was maybe .003 or .03 thicker than the others. Once I fixed that with a little , I realized the sliding insert was not well shaped and was actually binding on the side of the trigger itself. This kept my guns from snugging into the block as well as they could. Fixed that by relieving a small section of that block and now all my guns fit the holster better. I'll take pics tomorrow if you're interested. I'd like to see the photos. Maybe I'll have to do this to mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Where can I purchase a magnetic block for an l frame? Thanks, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootertheshooter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I have the N frame magnetic insert (box labeled 625) for my 929. The gun rocks slightly in the holster but stays put. I contacted CED just last month who subsequently reached out to Saul K with my question about it being a little loose. Saul assured me it was the correct insert and that it was secure. If I wanted greater security I could add the muzzle support but said I really don't need it. As long as I take care to seat the gun and lock it when reholstering, I haven't had a problem. I love the holster. Did the same thing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Tried mine last night to see if there was a problem with my 929 in the 625 holster. It works flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echd Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Where can I purchase a magnetic block for an l frame? Thanks, Dave. You should be able to use any 686 block. http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Double-Alpha-Race-Master-Holster-Blocks-Magnetic-P3609.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Thanks for the info, just what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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