would this be a DQ ?

[kevinm]

On a stage you drop prone in a tight corner,when ready to move get up with the gun on the ground in safe direction then pick it up ?

[CJW]

Generally not, so long as the rules are clearly written. Specific rules may require that an intentionally grounded (but not abandoned) gun have the safety engaged, and you'll probably get hosed for improper abandonment if, for some reason, you move more than about a step away from it. Most places require properly (in appropriate container) abandoning one gun before shooting a different one, so don't stand up form that rifle, draw and use your pistol, and then go back to the rifle...

But, as asked, you should be fine leaving an on-safe rifle on the ground long enough to stand and pick it up again. As with all things rules related, if you think you want to do it and you aren't sure, ask the stage RO before you are up to the line.

(If you are at a USPSA match or one that is using USPSA rules for some reason, they specifically allow grounding a safe firearm and define what it means to remain "in control".)

[Daveo52]

Fine for IPSC 10.5.3

[thermobollocks]

Acceptable per most rules I've ever seen and preferable if you're not comfortable holding the rifle while getting up.

[kevinm]

Ok thanks everyone , I was watching some 3gun video on YouTube and on some of the stages look like be easy to brake 180 getting up with gun or like getting out of a car.

[RiggerJJ]

At Rocky Mountain 3Gun, not a DQ, or any other penalty. Just don't leave it there and continue the cof with another gun.

jj

[EkuJustice]

Ya I wouldn't have an issue with someone doing it and wouldn't give a DQ for it. It's a safety issue for some who may not be able to just spring right up

[Paul Winters]

Missing the obvious question here Kevinm. What did the rules you competed under say about this? If the rules do not cover it clearly, then it is RO/CRO/RM/MD call. As an competitor and RO, I want to play in a black and white world with regard to the rules. Gray can be a pain in the _$$.

Paul : -)#

[Bigsampson]

The main issue here is was the weapon under the control of the shooter and safe.

In this scenario, the gun was absolutely under your control as you specifically put it in place in a safe manner so you could get up safely and require the firearm prior to moving to another position.

Any RO that had a problem with this is missing the point.

[StealthyBlagga]

Applying the safety is a good idea - whether it is REQUIRED likely varies by match and RM judgement.

[Bigsampson]

Agreed, I would whether required or not.

There is no competitive advantage to not flipping that switch.

But a stray finger could get you an AD if you don't

[dogtired]

USPSA multi gun rules:

5.3.4 A competitor who, for any reason during a course of fire, safely and intentionally places the firearm on

the ground or other stable object will not be disqualified provided the competitor maintains constant

physical contact with the firearm, until it is placed firmly and in a safe direction, securely on the ground or

another stable object, and remains within 1 yard of the firearm at all times.

3GN:

1.5 Grounded Firearm Definition:

A firearm will not be considered grounded until another firearm is discharged. You are permitted to go back and rectify incorrectly abandoned firearms left in an incorrect condition or location until the next firearm is discharged. Any firearm that has been grounded can no longer be used in the course of fire. You will be allowed to go back, retrieve an abandoned firearm and re-engage targets. A re-holstered pistol is not considered grounded, but a pistol abandoned in a designated container will be considered grounded after the next firearm is discharged.

[kevinm]

Thanks everyone