mscott Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 What are the rules for using a rifle suppressor for Multigun at your club? One local club just made a rule change than basically ANY muzzle device used in Tactical had to be no more than 1" dia x 3" long. Not sure why the change was made, but since rules are different everywhere, I though I would throw it out there and see what you think. I planned to shoot Tac Iron using a 9mm carbine with a red dot and a can just because it's fun, but guess I get to load everything up to capacity since I will need to shoot in Open now. I don't care either way, but don't understand the rule applying to suppressors either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 In USPSA, suppressors are allowed in Tac and Limited, as they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I believe our local club would be fine with it in tactical. you will just need to be fine with a RO getting really close when you are finishing with the rifle so the timer can pick up the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 have you tried having the timer picking up the shots? A 223 with a supressor isnt too bad for the RO but a 9mm with subsonic may get pretty tough to pick up the last shot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 We base our IPSC Rifle match equipment rules on USPSA, IMGA and old SOF rules. Suppressors are plenty legal in any division. They are not an advantage at all. They are heavy, get friggin hot, change your zero, ect. Some matches do not allow them in anything but open. Not sure why, but that is a decision Match Directors have to make. I am using a Sure Fire Mini on my 223 rifles. I dont shoot without it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 It's all better now. The match director decided to not require suppressors to be used only in Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidah Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Our club has quite a few using them. In our spring night match we have some using NVD's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 It's all better now. The match director decided to not require suppressors to be used only in Open. Good news. Hopefully, over time, all of Match Directors will allow them. When I say "over time," I mean yesterday. This way the shooting sports can battle against the stigma of suppressors and all things NFA. If we can show them being used safely for fun, it takes ammo away from the anti-gunners. Strangest thing is the NRA allows full auto M-14s and M-16s (shot on semi) at High Power matches, but suppressors are specifically not allowed, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC702 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Strangest thing is the NRA allows full auto M-14s and M-16s (shot on semi) at High Power matches, but suppressors are specifically not allowed, at all. Different reason for the rules. Selective-fire is general issue for service rifles. Suppressors are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Different reason for the rules. Selective-fire is general issue for service rifles. Suppressors are not. But cans are also not allowed in F-Class matches. I get why M-14s and M-16s are allowed as service rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 USPSA has become the outlaw.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLucky Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) There is a misconception, based on watching too many movies I think, with many match directors about how "quiet" silencers are. THey think that the timer won't pick up shots. The other problem is they think that silencers are too quiet, so they take a problem that doesn't exist and crank up the sensitivity on the timers to a level that it creates a problem of it picking up shots from other bays....... Edited September 30, 2014 by BigLucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Schmitt Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 What are the rules for using a rifle suppressor for Multigun at your club? One local club just made a rule change than basically ANY muzzle device used in Tactical had to be no more than 1" dia x 3" long. Not sure why the change was made, but since rules are different everywhere, I though I would throw it out there and see what you think. I planned to shoot Tac Iron using a 9mm carbine with a red dot and a can just because it's fun, but guess I get to load everything up to capacity since I will need to shoot in Open now. I don't care either way, but don't understand the rule applying to suppressors either. You may also have trouble at you local club with shooting the 9mm and being allowed to compete for score. Most all 3 gun requires a rifle round and usually list a .223 minimum cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 9mm is .355 and fired from a rifle which is bigger than .224, so no issues there I know what you are saying, but there is no power factor specified, so how can you argue that either way? This is more about having fun with cool toys. I felt the MD unfairly put the supressors in Open division as a one size fits all sort of rule, so I thought I'd start this thread and sent the MD a link to it. There is no doubt that I can go faster with a gas gun in .223 than the blowback 9mm as the .223 just simply runs faster and has less recoil. I wasn't going to fight over it, but it didn't make sense to me, so I questioned the change as did others. Had the rule been left standing that made cans only used in Open, I would have shot Open with a red dot and still been competitive. Doesn't really matter to me, but hate to see rules made or changed as a reaction to one or 2 complaints. The original problem he was trying to address was someone using too large of a muzzle brake in Tactical and the shooter wanted to argue it wasn't a compensator, but a flash hider or muzzle brake. (I wasn't part of the conversation, so don't know exactly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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