Zoomy Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 After shooting MG 180 gr. HP in my 5" STI LTD for the last two years and taking a lot of grief from my lead bullet shooting buddies ( they say I'm an idiot for spending a nickel more per bullet). I decided to purchase 500 each of BBI 180 gr. and 200 gr. bullets and see what all the fuss is about. I have N320 and Titegroup. I can come up with loads myself but I would like to know what recipes others have found to work best with the above bullet and powder combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss+P Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have never used either with moly bullets, however I have heard that titegroup burns too fast for lead and moly. I know that n320 is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have never used either with moly bullets, however I have heard that titegroup burns too fast for lead and moly. I know that n320 is great I have heard the same about Titegroup but supposedly BBI's new type of coating should not be effected by hot powders. Thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I shoot 180gr black bullets with 3.7grns of titegroup that's 800fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 They work fine with titegroup I can assure u I have shot alot of them with no issues whatsoever and the owner chandler is a great guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQDawg Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have shot plenty of the 180 gr BBI's with 4.87gr N320 at 1.185 OAL. Gives me an average of around 950 fps and 170 power factor with great accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have shot plenty of the 180 gr BBI's with 4.87gr N320 at 1.185 OAL. Gives me an average of around 950 fps and 170 power factor with great accuracy. Thanks, sounds like a good starting point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nghthwk1911 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am at 3.9 of TG for a 200gn Bayou .40cal. make 170pf+ with a 5in M&P Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss+P Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I shoot 180gr black bullets with 3.7grns of titegroup that's 800fps That is too slow. Good for minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It's not to slow for regular matches major match yes it is but I will load up for pf if 8 go to major match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I can make major at 4.5grs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Looks like I will be saving money on powder since it seems to take 5% less to make the same power factor when using coated lead instead of jacketed bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRush Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 A friend of mine uses 200 gr moly with 3.8 grs of Titegroup. We chronoed Saturday and it made 171 in his 5" and 178.6 in my 6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Just made up a few 200 gr loads using 3.7 gr of N320 and OAL of 1.180. I will report chrono results later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Just made up a few 200 gr loads using 3.7 gr of N320 and OAL of 1.180. I will report chrono results later today. Only made 160.435 power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Just made up a few 200 gr loads using 3.7 gr of N320 and OAL of 1.180. I will report chrono results later today. Only made 160.435 power factor. The magic number is 4.0 gr of N320 OAL 1.180 gives a four shot average of 872 fps x 197 gr bullet= 171.8 power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Why load to power factor if you aren't attending a major match? Load down for practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 When that damn buzzer goes off you will never notice the difference in your practice loads and your loads that make PF haha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cslafrain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 If u change the load for practice then you are practicing with a false recoil impulse. Practice with what you normally use. My match ammo is exactly the same as my practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Train like you fight (fight like you train). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Why waste powder if u don't have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Why waste powder if u don't have to? I understand where your coming from. But I only shoot 8000 rounds per year. So if I download 3 tenths of a grain per bullet that is 2400 grains saved which amounts to about $11 per year reloading with expensive Vit N320. My biggest savings comes from switching from Montana Gold 180gr JHP to cast and coated. That saves me $400 per year. Edited September 25, 2014 by Zoomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Yeah it doesn't amount to much but I haven't been to a major match yet so I just load down for practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBolt Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 HCF, If you load below PF you are cheating. Does not matter that you are at a local match with no chrono. The rules are clear on PF requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcf1976 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Well everyone I know then is cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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