b1gcountry Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) I was confused because the combined time was next to the stage time. I get it now Edited September 27, 2014 by b1gcountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 another thing to look at as a cross check would be the current percentage of GMs vs all other classes in the centerfire division. Currently there are approximately 1000 people ranked on the SCSA website. Of those, only the top 26 are GMs. That works out to only the top 2.6%. If you want it to be similar to USPSA than you might need to relax that a bit so the top 5% are GMs ... Not sure they are considering updating the centerfire division in this discussion about adding classes within divisions plus a new rimfire division but maybe it might be a good idea to. Using the Nationals as a baseline is certainly one way to do it but it can be somewhat artificial since while the top shooters may attend, a representative cross section of others shooters don't for various reasons. One of the reasons I shot the US Steel Nationals was because it was in my backyard. I elected not to attend the World Speed Shooting Championship because it was in Utah .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Any update on the results of the BOD meeting? Edited October 3, 2014 by jdphotoguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Any update on the results of the BOD meeting? Yeah, we're still waiting on them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 The new classification system for SC was approved at the BoD mtg. No specifics provided since the classification committee has to work this out but it's supposed to closely mirror th current USPSA system. No mention of whether a rimfire classification system was going to be included ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Since Area 6 is on the classification community I emailed him asking for details. I just hope the don't totally mess it up compared to what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Agree but almost anything would be better than what we have now where open masters compete with Production C class shooters ... And rimfire has nothing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Agree but almost anything would be better than what we have now where open masters compete with Production C class shooters ... And rimfire has nothing ... Rimfire classification is a MUST have, IMO. Hopefully we'll get some information on it soon. Ideally we'd get classifications in centerfire by division just like USPSA and then separate classifications for rimfire pistol and rimfire rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 If I remember correctly the original proposal to the BoD about updating the classification system was to mirror USPSA, separate divisions and classes within the divisions ... there was also talk about separate rimfire rifle and pistol categories ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 We it sounds like things are moving in the right directions, that's encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 well I just got a message from Flex and he said the rimfire classification system was discussed as well and was supposed to be executed as well ... Does anyone know if your USPSA membership is enough to get a Steel Challenge classification when you shoot sanctioned SC matches or do you need to join the SCSA as well as USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 well I just got a message from Flex and he said the rimfire classification system was discussed as well and was supposed to be executed as well ... Does anyone know if your USPSA membership is enough to get a Steel Challenge classification when you shoot sanctioned SC matches or do you need to join the SCSA as well as USPSA? That's good news about Rimfire. Did he share any details on how it's supposed to be implemented? As far as classification goes your USPSA number is all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 USPSA membership already included sc classification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 no. It was a general proposal back when this first came up so I suspect they've left it up to the classification committee to work the details ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 FWIW I heard from one of the AD's on the steel challenge classification committee yesterday. He's it's being developed but provided no specifics. It will be discussed in January and we'll know more then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 hopefully it won't take too long to have a draft classification systems for review ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFromHouston Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I shot a Steel Match @ the first of the month and there were shooters with Classifications............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Yes, the centerfire classification has been up and running for about a year. However, USPSA now plans to add a rimfire division classification system and make both look more like USPSA with separate divisions and classifications within each division. Right now a C class Production shooter competes against a GM open shooter .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'm waiting on shotgun classification This is seriously some good news to hear. I like to hope it'll help make the major matches (as well as level 1s that use all 8 stages rather than just 3 book and 3 whatever the MD wants) more attractive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 It's a topic for discussion at the next BoD meeting. From the USPSA web site: December 9th BOD Meeting Agenda The Board of Directors Phone-in meeting Agenda December 9th, 2014 - Update of ByLaw 10.5 (COI policy) - Report of revised Slot Policy - Re-numbering of Multi-gun Rules - Review of SCSA Classification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Looking forward to hearing some real progress ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHMSA15151 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 It would be great to have USPSA get this going. Most of the matches I attend have a 2 to 1 ratio of rim fire guns to center fire guns. Also, if you want to get kids and new shooters into a sport, it's much easier and cheaper to give it a try with a 22. If they started promoting rim fire a bit more I think it would really help the sport grow. It would help USPSA in the long run also as many folks would try USPSA matches after starting out in the simpler Steel Challenge matches. That's what I and several of my local club guys have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 I think HQ has figurered all that out as well its just a slow process since everyone who is working this is a volunteer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Most of the matches I attend have a 2 to 1 ratio of rim fire guns to center fire guns. Ours isn't quite 2:1 but rim fire is more popular than center fire that's for sure. At our match today we had 12 center fire guns, 17 rim fire pistols and 16 rim fire rifles. We plan to start shooting NSSF rimfire challenge matches in January and that's generating a lot of interest at our club -- especially since we can buy .22 ammo for that match through NSSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 for the last several months rimfire guns have been at about 2:1 at our monthly match as well ... shows how popular they are given how hard it still is to find 22lr ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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