Rifle ammo accuracy ?

[Hammer1]

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With regards to rifle ammo accuracy...

Does the Dillon Super 1050 or the 650 have any advantage over the other one ?

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[Steve RA]

No, it's more the Indian than the WigWam.

[pmt]

What kind of accuracy are you talking about? Consistently hitting a pie plate at 200yds with your AR, or 1 ragged 5 shot hole at 200yds with your bolt action .308? If it's the former, either press will do, if the latter, I would recommend a decent single stage press.

[Tom Freeman]

I load all my long range (>600 yards) ammo on a 550. Calibers range from 223 Ackley to 338 Lapua. It holds MOA accuracy or better.

[rdinga]

I believe David Tubbs has loaded more than a few award winning rounds on his Dillon. No hesitation to use either unit for match grade ammo.

[ano]

its common to use dillon 550/650/1050 for match grade bolt action ammo here (DFS) everything in same hole style, but of course, its not BR

[pmt]

My 550 has a casefeeder on it so I don't even think about rifle ammo there. My single stage was my first press and I've always loaded my match .223/.308 on it.

[Steve RA]

I think most of the Bench Rest shooters use a single stage.

[Tom Freeman]

I think most of the Bench Rest shooters use a single stage.

A single stage of sorts. They (short range/point blank/100-200 yard) use an Arbor press and hand dies. They normally load right there at the range.

[orangeman711]

I load all my 223, for shooting out to 650yds., on my 650 with case feeder. Have no problems with consistency or accuracy.If your loading for an AR make sure to case gauge all your loaded rds. Good luck.

[Powder Finger]

I believe David Tubbs has loaded more than a few award winning rounds on his Dillon. No hesitation to use either unit for match grade ammo.

yes, but not with a powder system most normal people own.

also the press is modified quite a bit.

[dillon]

The practice ammunition for the Palma matches has been loaded on XL650s and RL550 machines for years. the USAMU has a room full of Dillon equipment. Years ago a former employee set up an RL550 for 6mmTalldog, a benchrest wildcat, and set a couple of records for 200 yard aggregate benchrest shooting. There is no mechanical reason for a single stage to load ammunition more accurate than a progressive reloader. Die design and setup, combined with component selection have the greatest effect on the quality.

[Tom Freeman]

I believe David Tubbs has loaded more than a few award winning rounds on his Dillon. No hesitation to use either unit for match grade ammo.

yes, but not with a powder system most normal people own.

also the press is modified quite a bit.

One of these...? This is a Gen 2 Prometheus, last I knew David was still using a Gen 1. Davids press is not modified that much. Floating dies and the primer seat is pretty much the main details.

[Powder Finger]

I believe David Tubbs has loaded more than a few award winning rounds on his Dillon. No hesitation to use either unit for match grade ammo.

yes, but not with a powder system most normal people own.

also the press is modified quite a bit.

One of these...? This is a Gen 2 Prometheus, last I knew David was still using a Gen 1. Davids press is not modified that much. Floating dies and the primer seat is pretty much the main details.

all correct as far as I remember.

[roxfo]

I use a 1050 to load 308 ammo for Palma and international 300m competition at a fairly high level. It's taken a while to get the process just right, but I can't find any parameter that is demonstrably worse than I achieved on a single stage press (trim length, shoulder datum, length to ogive, bullet runout, for example). I mostly use Redding and Sinclair dies and I drop precisely weighed charges (from my own dispenser), which limits loading to about 200 or 250 per hour while case-prep runs at 1,000 per hour. I can't comment on how this would compare with a 650, but I'm very happy with the results from my 1050.