Merlin Orr Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 My Para P16 was re cut to a Wison/Nowlin during a new barrel install. I have a factory Para barrel that came with another gun. Can the ramp on the factory barrel be re cut to the W/N style ramp without welding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdgun Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Merlin, I posed the same question to Wil Schuemann. He was stronglly against doing it. He claims it would weaken the lug area on the barrel and that the barrel would not be able to be fit correctlly. Drop him a line and he will better explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 you cannot cut a para ramped frame to a wilson cut. The cut will be a .100 to far back & the barrel will only unlock against the link & break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEDELLCUSTOM Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 that is correct. clark/para cut from back of slidestop pin to front of cut is .600" nowlin/wilson cut from back of slidestop pin to front of cut is .500" you can change the cut from nowlin/wilson to clark/para but not the other way around unless you weld up the frame pocket and then cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Is it possible to modify the frame from para cut to wilson? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 achard, Did you miss the two posts above yours? I think they answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Did you miss the two posts above yours? I think they answer your question? I guess I misread the first part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 The P16 I have was supposedly cut to fit in a W/N ramped barrel. From the above postings I would assume the gun is unsafe and the frame ruined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I would not assume anything. Check that that it was done properly, or find someone that can. Can you contact the guy that recut the frame? He should be able to tell you what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I would for sure have someone knowledgable check it out.. was it built on a gunsmith frame or was it built from a factory P16?? I thought all para guns had the C/P ramp cut?? if so how did it get recut to a Wilson/Nowlin cut?? if the frame is indeed a W/N cut it could be cut to fit the deeper C/P cut of the barrel you have now..rather than trying to cut the barrel to fit the frame... anyway..have someone that know check it out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I thought all para guns had the C/P ramp cut?? if so how did it get recut to a Wilson/Nowlin cut?? Check the para gunsmit kit. Here in Philipipnes the gunsmit kit frame is already nowlin/wilson cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Ok, so you can change a FRAME from W/N -> C/P, but not vice-versa. Does that mean that, if you wanted to for some bizarre reason, you can change a BARREL from C/P -> W/N, but not vice-versa? (ie: opposite the frame) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEDELLCUSTOM Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 yes, the rounded clark/para boss can be cut back to give you the flat faced boss as in the nowlin/wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 I am operating on info from a conversation from the previous owner. I will have someone who knows what to look for check it out. I appreciate the responses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 it could be that the gun was built off one of those gunsmith kits that is an frame void of any ramp cut.. while not likely, could a smith have welded up the old para ramp cut and recut a wilson?? i woulndt understand the reason behind it, but its hard to understand some folks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmios Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 If you call EGW and talk to George I believe they will weld up the old cut and recut to the desired ramped barrel cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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