Mistake in rule book

[Bunchies95]

What's incorrect with this?

Face and feet pointing directly (90°) away from the backstop with shoulders parallel to the backstop.

Here is a super fancy drawing to illustrate the point

This is correct, When you are measuring angle of orientation, the shooter is the vertex of the angle. A straight line from the shooter to the backstop (perpendicular to backstop) is the zero degree reference ray. Then the direction the shooter is facing is the second ray from the vertex.

This is also why 10.5.2 refers to the muzzle pointing uprange as "further than 90 degrees from the median intercept of the backstop" not the 180.

[thermobollocks]

Doesn't look like a problem to me.

[Jamiethesquid]

I think this discussion should have stopped with the comment that USPSA was aware of the typo. But I am always game to beat a dead horse. Who has the stick? Pass it to me! Let's talk about the 180 deg rule and ranges that have bays that are not rectangles next.

Edited April 29, 2014 by IDPA-nut

[Attila]

why does the rule reference the backstop? I have seen clubs put a stage in the corner of a huge bay. Did the previous version of the rule reference the backstop or rear fault line?

[NoSteel]

So if I turn 1deg from facing up range and draw I'm good because I'm only breaking the 90deg but not the 180????

[johnsons1480]

So if I turn 1deg from facing up range and draw I'm good because I'm only breaking the 90deg but not the 180????

It's not a 180 rule in the rule book. Here is how it's stated.

10.5.2 If at any time during the course of fire, a competitor allows the muzzle of his handgun to point rearwards, that is further than 90 degrees from the median intercept of the backstop, or in the case of no backstop, allows the muzzle to point up range, whether the handgun is loaded or not

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[thermobollocks]

Well, yeah, technically it's a two sided 90 degree rule.

[spanky]

Which part of "...away from the back-stop" is it difficult understand? In this case, the back-stop is the anchoring orientation.

The rule merely attempts to clarify a starting position. Is basic geometry really difficult to understand?

So the phrase is correct, albeit a bit awkward. The back-stop is the anchoring orientation, not the shooter. Just look at a typical protractor.

Just to be clear. By your logic, a down range start would be 270 degrees, correct?

I'm grasping the geometry; I think you're just having trouble with the English language.

You picked the wrong dude to say that to.

Edited April 30, 2014 by spanky

[johnsons1480]

You picked the wrong dude to say that to.

Cool

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