uzi Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 hello, what is fast time to shot first shot from holster for tagret around 10 meter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_round Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 As fast as it takes to hit an A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierruiggi Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I thinks short_round gave you a great advice. But I would be inclined to say you should shoot as fast as it allows you to get the best hit points/time ratio. There is a lengthy explanation of the scoring system and how to approach it on Rob Leatham's site. I'll look it up. EDIT: Here you go, it's the first one. Now, it looks like you are requesting a number based answer, and I'm not quite sure that is a correct approach, but anyways... In my personal opinion, I'd say a sub second (meaning 1.00 second or faster) A hit from the holster (you don't specify which kind of weapon or holster) is a pretty good time. Does this mean you should strive to get this 1 second mark and then stop trying to beat that personal record of yours? No, you should always practice and set the goal to go faster while still getting reliable hits and reproduceable (is that even a word?) performance. This aplies to every aspect of shooting, not just draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 My best ever is .69, in the course of a multi shot drill. It happened after a bunch of .72s, while I was actually focusing on getting better hits on the drill I was doing. Remember, your conscious mind can only picture one thing at a time, so you always get exactly what you think about... SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I'll call anything one second and under fast. I can do .7 range from produciton gear reliably and faster with open, but that is practice in a match i'm about .9 with both on a good day. fast is nothing if there isn't a hole in the A zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 In his book, Brian Enos lists .95 seconds as his reliable draw from an IPSC start to a an 8 inch plate at 10 yards. That's for a single shot. As a rule, the first shot time seems to increase slightly when subsequent shots are required. I would say anyone who has consistently demonstrated a reliable sub one second first shot match draw to an A box at 10 meters is very, very, fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 My FASTEST overall draw (it was at 5 yards not 10) is .59. My average 10 yard draw is anywhere from .8 - 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I have a lot of work to do. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cz75ipsc Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 You guys make me so depressed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I have a lot of work to do. You guys make me so depressed... LOL, just remember (and this is in no way an attempt to put Jake down) that anyone can do this if you are willing to put in the work! BTW, .59 is friggin' awesome Jake!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Sppok, Thanks bud. I totally agree that anyone can do it. Figuring that for the past month I have been dry firing for 1 - 5 hours a day, with live fire in between. 6 months ago there was no way I could pull a .59 draw off. .8 was difficult. Now, when I hit a .8 or a .9 it always feels slow. A .9 now feels like a 1.5. If you want it bad enough, you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I don't get out much. Do the guys on the Super squad perform match draws to a 10 yard A box in .8-.9 seconds? I know they can, but I am curious if they typically back it off a notch in favor of that "Kodak moment" with perfect sight picture and a perfect grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I can't speak for the super-squad. Jake was down for a match in Ohio at the start of December. I know that he was hitting sub-second draws in the match. That is likley because they became second nature to him. I know I wasn't hitting them that quickly. And, if I had tried, it would have been a mess...I hadn't been handling my gun much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Jake, Since when did Bjorn become SPPOK ? "Live Long and Prosper" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froglegs Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 As fast as you can have FUN doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Back here course designers spoil your hidden fast draw advantage by putting lots of no-shoots on your targets or use partials or hard covers. And the times they don't do that, you normally have to start from a really unstable position or stance. Personally, I find a 1.2 sec draw from any start position (assuming holstered and chambered gun) to be already competitive. Of course, this should not stop you from practicing to get sub sec draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 If person A's draw is .25 faster than person B's draw. It will be .25 faster whether you are drawing to a full target or a partial. If there is no movement required before the first shot, there is no way to "spoil" a fast draw time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Jake,Since when did Bjorn become SPPOK ? "Live Long and Prosper" Bjorn, post a photo of your ears, dude, we need to determine your real identity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 It was logical to conclude it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Hey! That's not a wheelgun..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Here its usually condition 2 in most start positions. Though level2-3 matches give us some condition 1 starts. I had a .83 at a 12 meter plate on an all steel stage. I found out since the RO told me and showed me the timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Hey! Not fair! That's point-shooting stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 point shooting? Revolver? I just finished shaving myself...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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