Fullauto_Shooter Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I rarely shoot .45, but was doing some small batch reloading this evening and kept "discovering" small primer .45 brass. Just enough mixed in to prevent establishing any real rhythm on the press (maybe 1 SP case in every 25 cases or so). What freaking idiot thought this was a good idea?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I know what you mean. I was running through a batch of 700 the other night and couldn't get settled in handpriming because of hitting SP brass every so often. Probably ended up with close to 50 cases by time I was done. Too many to toss but now something else to have to keep track of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Better learn to like them, I found a GFL SP case so now there are at least 4, Fed,Speer, Blazer and GFL. If you think about it for a moment, it's not really a bad idea. I use SP .45s so that for the three calibers I reload for, I only need one primer size. Use Tula KVB-223 in everything so only need to stock one primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I agree I love 45 small pistol primer brass as it means I don't have to change the primer system over and I can keep small pistol and small rifle primers and be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Make it even easier and use SRPs in everything. (other than revolver and large rifle cartridges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafdov368 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 #1 reason I don't load 45's anymore. Was loading one night and found one in my dillon 1050. KABOOM! thankfully the whole tube didn't go off, the flame that emitted from the priming station was something just trying to terrify me to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 I've got a 650 and really don't think it's that big a deal to swap out the primer system. I get that some appreciate the simplification aspect of using all small primers, but I also reload large-primer rifle rounds so I have to occasionally change the primer system regardless. I simply think that since .45ACP has used large primers for over 100 years, the ammo companies should just leave well enough alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Ford model Ts are over 100 years old, should Ford have left well enough alone ??? I think the Mfrs are trying to simplify by using the same primer in all the popular auto cartridges. Also, with some of the new primer compounds they didn't need the capacity of the large primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Forgot to mention, 10mm now come in both sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I couldn't take the frustration so I sold 10K of .45LP brass and bought once-fired .45SP brass. I don't have to switch the 650 over to LP at all now and I can load the 4 calibers by just stocking one primer: SRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Ford model Ts are over 100 years old, should Ford have left well enough alone ??? I think the Mfrs are trying to simplify by using the same primer in all the popular auto cartridges. Also, with some of the new primer compounds they didn't need the capacity of the large primers. I see the point you're trying to make, but feel compelled to also point out the obvious contrast between something as complex as an automobile and something as simple as a pistol cartridge. Do I think the ammo companies should have left well enough along with the venerable .45ACP cartridge - Yes I Do! For you progressives switching over to SP brass, feel free to send me all your old "outdated" LP brass. I'll even pay shipping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Ford model Ts are over 100 years old, should Ford have left well enough alone ??? I think the Mfrs are trying to simplify by using the same primer in all the popular auto cartridges. Also, with some of the new primer compounds they didn't need the capacity of the large primers. I see the point you're trying to make, but feel compelled to also point out the obvious contrast between something as complex as an automobile and something as simple as a pistol cartridge. Do I think the ammo companies should have left well enough along with the venerable .45ACP cartridge - Yes I Do! For you progressives switching over to SP brass, feel free to send me all your old "outdated" LP brass. I'll even pay shipping! Fat chance, mine sold for $55 per K and it went like hot cakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullauto_Shooter Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 $55 per K for .45 brass is a pretty good deal - not surprised you sold out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I never paid more for that when I bought it. I think $70-100 .45 brass by people who act like they gave birth to it under the glow of a warm sun...you get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I see your point, however, due to the complexity of the modern automobile and the simpleness of the pistol cartridge case one would think it would have progressed more rapidly than the automobile. It seems to me that the ammo companies should have standardized on one primer size many, many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Do what I did and buy another 650 and have one set up for large primer and the other for small. Can never have to many 650's. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Do what I did and buy another 650 and have one set up for large primer and the other for small. Can never have to many 650's. :-) Let's see, $1500 for another 650 or $1500 worth of primers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Well if you must know my first 650 loaded with case feeder and all only cost $100.00. Won a gun at a raffle and somebody wanted it more than me and I told them jokingly if they came up with a 650 loaded I would trade and next thing I knew he was at my door. The second one cost me $750.00 shipped to my door again casefeeder and all and bought it here off the classifieds. Sometimes you have to be in the right place at the right time and guess what I still had plenty of money left for both large and small primers.:-) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I couldn't take the frustration so I sold 10K of .45LP brass and bought once-fired .45SP brass. I don't have to switch the 650 over to LP at all now and I can load the 4 calibers by just stocking one primer: SRP Isn't the frustration loading one primer size but having one or more cases with the other mixed into your brass? So what happens when you have large primered cases mixed into your small primered brass? Seems to me that unless you only recover and use your own brass that you still have to inspect what you use and sort by primer size. An unavoidable hassle unless you only shoot small primer only cases like 40 S&W or a 9mm variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I only shoot SP cases, which is why I only use 1 primer. I pick up my brass after practice, I let it lay at local matches. I don't sort, I only use my own brass. I'm not a scrounger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 They made me mad enough to come up with a solution. http://s664.photobucket.com/user/qvideo/media/VID_20131019_144919_066_zps63db164a.mp4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertl35 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 What's not to love, 1 primer to keep in stock, 1 primer feed system...Only thing to hate is that they are the standard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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