JerryDGeek Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Exactly...you were holstered b4 you entered the tunnel and then as you got through it you came to a barricade with a port thru which you had to shoot two on a target then the stop plate, after you drew weakhand only and shot weak hand only....good stuff...that was part of the original Cooper assault.. I'm confused. Obviously, I don't understand what you are saying. As nearly as I can tell, it is illegal in IPSC to do at least two of the activities you describe. Looking at the 2004 USPSA rule book, which closely follows the earlier edition in this matter, it is a Match DQ offence to draw your pistol while negotiating a Cooper Tunnel: 10.5.4 ... Drawing or holstering a handgun in the confines of a tunnel] Again, you also say: ... you drew weakhand only... According to the rules, that is specifically prohibited: 8.2.4: A course of fire must never require the competitor to draw a handgun from the holster with the weak hand. Are you saying that you participated in a match which violated both of these rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Beverley Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 In fact 90% of what I was taught in my brief earier experience in this game (at the Bob Dunkley Practical Shooting Academy [not familiar to many here I'm sure]) is now no longer applicable. Kevin <Thread drift> Kevin I did my basic HG course with Bob as well (1986). He's still alive and well and still shooting, but that's a different story. Actually the last time I spoke to hime he wanted a load of balloons for a fun shoot he was organising. We must have been on the circuit together? What was your club. I shot with Basildon. <Thread drift off> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Jerry, I think he was doing that a bit b4 the 2004 rule book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Cooper Tunnel at my club match two weeks ago. Ports in both side walls to engage targets through. The other half of the stage had you stepping over ankle height slats to get to the last couple of ports ---- it was fun. Note to Duane: Gloat too much about easy Cooper Tunnels, and I'll have to design some courses with 5'9" ports and low targets and ship them to WA...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Reigning two-times EC Modified champion is roughly 1.70m tall, and he's a MD and stage designer too for Italian league matches. We usually refer to low ports as "bubu sized ports" (bubu is his nickname) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 A few months ago Cooper Tunnels were discussed in this thread: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13467 On my stage at this year's Mosquito Match there was one (like every year), and as Schmitz said, this year's Dutch Open included one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Jerry.. As Flex says, this was way back when... when we used to do all that really dangerous stuff...lol when the only kinds of guns were revo's and semi autos...not different divisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdj Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 <still drifting> He's still alive and well and still shooting, but that's a different story. I've seen pictures of "BadAss Bob" We must have been on the circuit together? What was your club. I shot with Basildon. I only shot in the UK for a little while back in about '88, but we might have run into each other since we shot pretty much every match in the country during that year! My home club was Woodtop (Keith Winter's Club at the time) "up North". Thinking about that brings back a lot of memories. One day, I'll have to learn to shoot shotgun so I can come and shoot a match in the UK again - I've just sent off my application to rejoin the UKPSA since I want to see if there's any one I still know mentioned in the newsletter <We now return you to your originally scheduled nostalgia> Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 i think most of the cooper tunnels are WAY bigger than the old ones i have seen in pics and videos. for me 04 tri-state in PA .. nice tunnel not too small... lol we need a moveable one that can be used as a percentage of said shooters height ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Oh yeah? Well I did one of those knee-high Cooper tunnels with a shotgun. That adds a little twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsimpso1 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I have done Cooper Tunnels twice (I think) in the last year at local matches here in SE Michigan. It was particularly fun watching Chris McNutt go through it with his Pistol Caliber Carbine. I would rather do stages with Cooper Tunnels than do another nightmare like that damned Pipe Dream we had at Michigan USPSA shoot. That was a nightmare, aptly described in the latest Front Sight. Billski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 I ran sub 19 sec Cooper's all the time, with a reload and the 6 ft wall, back in the 70's, and the underneath was 18", not 3 ft, ferchrissakes. You go thru almost on your belly, or you'd knock off 1 or more 2x4's, 5 second penalty each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Watched Tommy Campbell to a 17.9 and Raul Walters do a 17.7, both were plenty fast.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Watched Tommy Campbell to a 17.9 and Raul Walters do a 17.7, both were plenty fast.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How high were they? 18 inches seems a bit low from what little I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTOSHootr Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 We had a tunnel yesterday. Good job Matt! I'm sure he still won the match (by 22%). Tunnel Movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 without going back to dig thru the old match stuff, I think they were 2 feer high and 4 feet wide...but don't quote me on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxD Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 without going back to dig thru the old match stuff, I think they were 2 feer high and 4 feet wide...but don't quote me on that... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But that was so far back that you were shooting Milparks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 You are right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old shooter Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I remember being pretty fast on the Cooper Assult, and in fact ran it in the low 18's at the 1978 Nationals. If I remember correctly, it was scored points first, time second. One point down, and all the speed in the world won't do you any good. Which is exactly what happend to me...... If your elbows weren't bleeding, you were not going fast enough. And don't even think about elbow pads back then....... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Mike Is that the Natls where Kirk Kirkham lost his pistol in the tunnel and left a fist imprint on the barricade wall at the end of the tunnel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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