chuckbradley Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Its not about how fast you can shoot it (at least before you shoot it). It sabout letting your sight slead you through the stage. To get to this point you have to know how to switch gears based on sight picture. Not an easy accomplishment. Learning this took me from M to GM, switching gears that is. The next step was having the experience or maturity to not tell your self I need to shoot this fast or slow but to let that sight picture determine you speed of shooting and lead you through the course of fire instead of you pushing it through. This leads to less mistakes and better points. Consistency wins matches most the time, speed wins some of the time. Shoot the sights , do everything else fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Matt, I was eavesdropping on a conversation between GMs at the last Nationals, who were not familiar to me. I didn't get names. The gist of the talk was in not shooting insane splits, but ensuring A hits in the fastest, smoothest manner possible. (Perhaps in recalling it, I've altered it. Caffiene can do that.) As I said, .01 seconds faster on splits means nothing if it costs you .10 seconds elsewhere. For shooters who are working to shave full seconds off of their stage times, fussing over .10 or .01 is another world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 As I said, .01 seconds faster on splits means nothing if it costs you .10 seconds elsewhere. For shooters who are working to shave full seconds off of their stage times, fussing over .10 or .01 is another world. Vickers Scoring in IDPA is sort of an analog for us mere mortals. It's not worth it to save 0.2 seconds on a splits if you miss the down zero circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBurkett Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 So they weren't say to shoot slow. They were saying fast and smooth. That I can agree with. Rhino, .2 or .02? SERIOUS difference between those. .02 big deal, .20 bad deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Yeah, I meant 0.2 ... was referring to people like me. I pulled a number from my nether regions to describe the difference in time between me shooting two sight pictures and getting two down zero shots vs. me doing a hammer and getting maybe one down zero and a down 1 or worse. Not worth the 0.5 second penalty, even if it takes you a full extra 0.49 seconds to aim that second shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Yes, or worse, ICORE, with full seconds between scoring rings. I've shot ICORE matches where I've forgotten to shift gears, shot it at IPSC speed, and incurred 17 seconds of extra time in the first stage. My total added time for the rest of the match was less than that stage. It isn't "How fast can you shoot it" but "How fast can you shoot it clean?" as each "oops" costs you a full second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 It isn't "How fast can you shoot it" but "How fast can you shoot it clean?" as each "oops" costs you a full second. When I finally realized that reality, my IDPA scores improved substantially. Not as much as when I realized that using cover "the right way" was also killing me, but it certainly helped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalmas Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I've never recoreded a split faster than .17! I physically can't move my finger faster . Hurt my arm about a year ago and it cramps if I try to be too fast (no shit). It used to bother me much - now I don't care, the answer to winning preisidents medals doesn't lie in splits. But a funny thing about splits - everybody say they don't matter that much but according to the hit/respons ration in the forum I'm not sure everybody is completely honest... Its fun and cool and a macho topic.. we like those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 But a funny thing about splits - everybody say they don't matter that much but according to the hit/respons ration in the forum I'm not sure everybody is completely honest... Its fun and cool and a macho topic.. we like those. MY finger twitches faster than YOURS does...oh yeah, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powder Finger Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Yeah, I meant 0.2 ... was referring to people like me. I pulled a number from my nether regions to describe the difference in time between me shooting two sight pictures and getting two down zero shots vs. me doing a hammer and getting maybe one down zero and a down 1 or worse. Not worth the 0.5 second penalty, even if it takes you a full extra 0.49 seconds to aim that second shot.Just an observation but it's seems frequent that people have separated themselves by their percieved skill which I believe the first road block to the thems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Hold on there. You pulled a number from your nether regions and it was .2??? I feel so sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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