jimmcc Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 This maybe a stupid question but- do you guys think this mod would be beneficial to an Open VM? I know the sticks are cheating but I'm thinking smoother is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealkoop Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I would imagine it would be beneficial. I know you get a lot of mechanical advantage with the sticks but those shells still need to clear the shell latch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcon260 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Here is another pic of the Option B mod shared with me. Notice there is much less contact between the tip of the feed latch and the shell rim than with the unmodified shell latch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgvwheeler Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Man. That is really opened up. I was under the impression that the lip on the front bottom side of the loading port helped hold the shells in the tube. In this picture almost all the shell rim is exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Man. That is really opened up. I was under the impression that the lip on the front bottom side of the loading port helped hold the shells in the tube. In this picture almost all the shell rim is exposed. I took a look at mine with shells loaded and it's pretty much the same, maybe even less contact with the shell rim. Way I look at it, there doesn't need to be a lot of contact with the shell rim, just enough! Now I may regret taking off as much as I have someday so maybe I'll go ahead and get that replacement shell latch and modify it now, just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 The latch mod is pretty easy on the Versamax. The u grooves are already there and really don't need to be any deeper. Just use a rat tail file to remove the lip in fluting at the end of the stop (right where it contacts the shell rim), then polish it up real nice. I cut my stop back to reduce contact and went a little too far (pretty easy to do), some times releasing two shells instead of one. I figured I'd try bending the shell catch back before buying a new one. I gave it just the tiniest tweek and now it's perfect. Easy to load and both stops and releases shells properly. Everything looks good after a couple thousand shells. After modding mine, I did the port and shell stop work on a couple of buddies guns. All I did on theirs was remove the lip as described and polish up the stop and they were very pleased with the the improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcon260 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I received a replacement feed latch and am going to do Mod B next weekend..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcon260 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 ...have a shotgun match this weekend and don't have the guts to change around anything without a testing period...well maybe more experience tells me its not a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgvwheeler Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I was talking about the receiver actually. the receiver has a lip built into it where it meets the mag tube that holds the bottom of the shell. I thought that was necessary to hold shells it in the tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I worked on mine today. Loads much easier! I'm just afraid I may have taken off a little too much. It looks about like the picture in post 28, so maybe it will work just fine. Test report to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneyb Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I worked on mine today. Loads much easier! I'm just afraid I may have taken off a little too much. It looks about like the picture in post 28, so maybe it will work just fine. Test report to follow. I may have taken a little too much off mine as well. When I tested it with 3 different brands of ammo, I found that Rem shells wouldn't always 'catch' after the tube had 6 or 7 shells in it. It seemed like I had to push the Remington shells into the tube further. Once they were loaded, they ran fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Pretty sure I screwed mine up. But this is one thing you can order from Remington via their online parts store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunCat Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Pretty sure I screwed mine up. But this is one thing you can order from Remington via their online parts store. Are shells slipping past the latch? You may be able to slight bend it (toward the center of the mag tube) at the point just in front of the pivot pin to allow a bit more surface engagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Pretty sure I screwed mine up. But this is one thing you can order from Remington via their online parts store. You an give it a little bend. That's what I had to do and mine has worked perfectly for 2000 shells now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Pretty sure I screwed mine up. But this is one thing you can order from Remington via their online parts store. You an give it a little bend. That's what I had to do and mine has worked perfectly for 2000 shells now. You never got the double ejecting shell tube thing to work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I already ordered a spare, but I may try giving it a little bend too. I haven't shot it yet and I've smacked the butt into the floor quite a few times and shells haven't slipped by the latch, but I can't imagine there enough holding the rim to keep them from coming out when they aren't suppose to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durtywrench Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Anybody have any more pics ? From three pics I've seen it looks like you grind both sides of the shell catch that touches three back of the shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Anybody have any more pics ? From three pics I've seen it looks like you grind both sides of the shell catch that touches three back of the shell The bottom of the shell latch is the only part that really catches on mine, and that's the part that was interfering with loading. So the only grinding I did was on the bottom lip of the latch to make it concentric with the follower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durtywrench Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Anybody have any more pics ? From three pics I've seen it looks like you grind both sides of the shell catch that touches three back of the shellThe bottom of the shell latch is the only part that really catches on mine, and that's the part that was interfering with loading. So the only grinding I did was on the bottom lip of the latch to make it concentric with the follower. When you say bottom lip of the latch , are you referring to the side closer to the loading port ? Gonna have to south mine out just a tad more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Anybody have any more pics ? From three pics I've seen it looks like you grind both sides of the shell catch that touches three back of the shellThe bottom of the shell latch is the only part that really catches on mine, and that's the part that was interfering with loading. So the only grinding I did was on the bottom lip of the latch to make it concentric with the follower. When you say bottom lip of the latch , are you referring to the side closer to the loading port ? Gonna have to south mine out just a tad more Yes, bottom of the latch when the gun is held in the upright position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durtywrench Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thank you ! I appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalBornPatriot Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Thank you to everyone on this post and a few others, I pulled the trigger yesterday and dove in head first on my Versa Max mods. I welded the lifter ( I give myself a 95%, wasn't prepared with the right materials and wasn't going to stop to finish later, ended up using 316 SS filler wire). Had a slight catch when cycling manually, thinking it's more of an inertia, manual cycling thing though. Filed the feed latch and formed it to the follower , has intermittent double feed when loading doubles, so...... I am going to give it a lil bend if It happens again today while in actual use. I went off of Pat Kelly's recommendation on opening the loading port and I'm very happy with how it turned out. I also feathered down the forward grip on the entire perimeter and coped it to match the opening of the loading port job. It turned into a pretty long day and I'm excited to get it into action today to see how I did. Thanks Again to everyone' for their sharing of experience and knowledge. I will post some pics also, they were a big help in helping me do mine, trying to figure that out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalBornPatriot Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 OK, Lets see if this works. Had to do this through the wifes yahoo account. https://www.flickr.com/photos/122150429@N03/13588584924/in/photostream/ This is pics of the mods to the versamax I performed last saturday. From field testing, the longer lifter causes the round to want to jam a the top ridge of the barrel Going to send it to C-Rums to have it throated I have a few other pics of the back side of the lifter I want to up load as well since I ground a little out of the center to help keep the round centered. Also, performed both mods to the feed latch and had to give it a little tweek, but after that, no problems. Ready for the POLO 3 gun on Sunday!! Lets have some fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealkoop Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 OK, Lets see if this works. Had to do this through the wifes yahoo account. https://www.flickr.com/photos/122150429@N03/13588584924/in/photostream/ This is pics of the mods to the versamax I performed last saturday. From field testing, the longer lifter causes the round to want to jam a the top ridge of the barrel Going to send it to C-Rums to have it throated I have a few other pics of the back side of the lifter I want to up load as well since I ground a little out of the center to help keep the round centered. Also, performed both mods to the feed latch and had to give it a little tweek, but after that, no problems. Ready for the POLO 3 gun on Sunday!! Lets have some fun! Put the extended part of the lifter in a vice and give it a little bend. This way you get the extra length but it doesnt protrude into the loading area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalBornPatriot Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Think I got it fixed, a little dremmel work at the top of the barrel and all is smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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