a matt Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Everybody was DQ'ed.10.5.5 Allowing the muzzle of a handgun to point at any part of the competitorsbody during a course of fire (i.e. sweeping).ETA: Post #2 sums it up pretty well... Agreed everyone DQed RO fired. Lol. Kidding. To me that's just not a good idea for a way to start, with so many other that are non issues. Edited November 13, 2015 by a matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead471 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 This should be reported to USPSA. USPSA should contact the MD, decide if disciplinary measures are needed and get an assurance something like this will not happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It was over two years ago based on the OP, so that ship may have sailed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 No RO is going to DQ them when the MD says that there's nothing wrong ..... You're probably right. If I were ROing and lost that argument I would head to BW3's early for beer and wings and let the MD run his own unsafe match. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 No RO is going to DQ them when the MD says that there's nothing wrong .....You sure? I'm not the world's most assertive guy, but I would totally tell the MD there *was* something wrong, and I would explain to the MD and shooters than I would dq anyone who allowed themselves to be swept during the COF. From the op it sounded like the ROs already objected and were told by the MD it was ok. It's at that point an assertive RO has a discussion with his MD, not wait until a shooter trys to shoot his stage .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 No RO is going to DQ them when the MD says that there's nothing wrong .....You sure? I'm not the world's most assertive guy, but I would totally tell the MD there *was* something wrong, and I would explain to the MD and shooters than I would dq anyone who allowed themselves to be swept during the COF. From the op it sounded like the ROs already objected and were told by the MD it was ok. It's at that point an assertive RO has a discussion with his MD, not wait until a shooter trys to shoot his stage .... +1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balliet Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No RO is going to DQ them when the MD says that there's nothing wrong ..... You're probably right. If I were ROing and lost that argument I would head to BW3's early for beer and wings and let the MD run his own unsafe match. in all actuality, at our match you could have brought your beer and wings. the md always says, 'if we let one slide, gotta let em all...' that being said, drinking and plinking woulda been A ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frgood Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 There is also the risk of reaching over the table, and spinning the gun. That would break the 180 and sweep then entire gallery. This is just not safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I would have Not ran a single shooter,.......as an RO I can't start someone wrong. I could argue that an unsafe start is wrong and I would argue that point. I would have stopped the match. Discussed with MD. If MD agreed, all is good. If not, they would have had to escort me from the range. I WOULD NOT LEAVE VOLUNTARILY. I have a duty to run safe and efficient matches. It is my responsibility to rise above the fray and fight the good fight. I would not allow a single shooter to shoot the stage and I would not remove myself from the equation. If I was escorted off the range then USPSA would be getting a call. It would be at this point that I would learn if my recent voting was worth it. I would expect the MD and any official that allowed this to happen would receive, in the least, some type of formal reprimand,...and at the most, but this is kind of extreme, be stripped of their titles and forced to retrain if they wanted to continue as officials. Again, the DQ talk is ridiculous because a good RO/CRO would never start a shooter. Edited January 22, 2016 by Chris iliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well put ... The RO is only line of defense we have to execute shooting safely ... If ROs are willing to bow to pressure from anyone where safety issues are at stake when they KNOW it's wrong then they should never pick up the timer .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frgood Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well put ... The RO is only line of defense we have to execute shooting safely ... If ROs are willing to bow to pressure from anyone where safety issues are at stake when they KNOW it's wrong then they should never pick up the timer .... Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my00wrx1 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't want to sound cliched but safety is everyone's responsibility. If it's not right speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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