DrLove Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 OK, so my XDM with a C-more Carver mount on it completely failed me today. I've almost changed everything to get it to cycle correctly with the Carver mount and it's not working (the problem some of you might know about is that the casings would bounce off the mount and cause problems). So anyway, I've decided the Carver mount has to go and I'll just start using some slide mounted optic. The main problem I'm having is that no sight can compare to C-more (the full version whatever they call it not the RTS/STS stuff). So I have the option of the following, which one do you think is closest to the C-More (i.e. which is the second best)? DeltaPoint – 7.5MOA FastFire 3 - 8MOA JP Point – 8MOA Docter – 8MOA As in, C-more shooters out there, if you have tried the above, which one is best for open shooters and closest to c-more? thanks in advance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 OK, so my XDM with a C-more Carver mount on it completely failed me today. I've almost changed everything to get it to cycle correctly with the Carver mount and it's not working (the problem some of you might know about is that the casings would bounce off the mount and cause problems). So anyway, I've decided the Carver mount has to go and I'll just start using some slide mounted optic. The main problem I'm having is that no sight can compare to C-more (the full version whatever they call it not the RTS/STS stuff). So I have the option of the following, which one do you think is closest to the C-More (i.e. which is the second best)? DeltaPoint – 7.5MOA FastFire 3 - 8MOA JP Point – 8MOA Docter – 8MOA As in, C-more shooters out there, if you have tried the above, which one is best for open shooters and closest to c-more? thanks in advance... I know it's not on your list, but if the new version will survive, the Cmore RTS is awesome. I don't like any slide mount optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLove Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 OK, so my XDM with a C-more Carver mount on it completely failed me today. I've almost changed everything to get it to cycle correctly with the Carver mount and it's not working (the problem some of you might know about is that the casings would bounce off the mount and cause problems). So anyway, I've decided the Carver mount has to go and I'll just start using some slide mounted optic. The main problem I'm having is that no sight can compare to C-more (the full version whatever they call it not the RTS/STS stuff). So I have the option of the following, which one do you think is closest to the C-More (i.e. which is the second best)? DeltaPoint – 7.5MOA FastFire 3 - 8MOA JP Point – 8MOA Docter – 8MOA As in, C-more shooters out there, if you have tried the above, which one is best for open shooters and closest to c-more? thanks in advance... I know it's not on your list, but if the new version will survive, the Cmore RTS is awesome. I don't like any slide mount optics. problem I can't find a mount for it (xdm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Had them all-the best you don't have re-zero after changing batteries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Fatboy Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 OK, so my XDM with a C-more Carver mount on it completely failed me today. I've almost changed everything to get it to cycle correctly with the Carver mount and it's not working (the problem some of you might know about is that the casings would bounce off the mount and cause problems). So anyway, I've decided the Carver mount has to go and I'll just start using some slide mounted optic. The main problem I'm having is that no sight can compare to C-more (the full version whatever they call it not the RTS/STS stuff). So I have the option of the following, which one do you think is closest to the C-More (i.e. which is the second best)? DeltaPoint – 7.5MOA FastFire 3 - 8MOA JP Point – 8MOA Docter – 8MOA As in, C-more shooters out there, if you have tried the above, which one is best for open shooters and closest to c-more? thanks in advance... I know it's not on your list, but if the new version will survive, the Cmore RTS is awesome. I don't like any slide mount optics. problem I can't find a mount for it (xdm). You can't find them in stock anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRichardson Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 You can get a mount plate for you carver mount for the STS . Might try emailing bobby I know he told me hewas working on a RTS mount a while back. You shouldn't have any problem the shorter sight on the mount. Have you moved the mount top plate forward to see if it helps. Also what recoil spring are you running? Have you tried to file a different angle on the ejector? My carver xdm runs great with just a little tuning. The thing about open guns is it is more about tuning parts than just putting in new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLove Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 You can get a mount plate for you carver mount for the STS . Might try emailing bobby I know he told me hewas working on a RTS mount a while back. You shouldn't have any problem the shorter sight on the mount. Have you moved the mount top plate forward to see if it helps. Also what recoil spring are you running? Have you tried to file a different angle on the ejector? My carver xdm runs great with just a little tuning. The thing about open guns is it is more about tuning parts than just putting in new stuff. I've actually tried everything and still can't run a full mag without a problem. That's why I've decided to git rid of the mount. Do you have a picture of how your mount is installed along with the ejection port? That might help me a lot. Also, what PF ammo do you use? Thanks in advance:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRichardson Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'll try and get some pictures later but I have the carver competition mount mounted all the way to the rear. The ejection port is stock, no machine work. I use the powder river machined ejector and just slightly bent the tip to get the ejectionout at the 2:00 position when holding the gun in front of you. The load is mixed brass, berrys 124 HBRN thick plated, 6.9 auto comp or 7.6 of longshot. At 1.155 Have you been in touch with bobby carver? He has some of the best customer service I have ever experienced and , I have no doubt, will help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLove Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'll try and get some pictures later but I have the carver competition mount mounted all the way to the rear. The ejection port is stock, no machine work. I use the powder river machined ejector and just slightly bent the tip to get the ejectionout at the 2:00 position when holding the gun in front of you. The load is mixed brass, berrys 124 HBRN thick plated, 6.9 auto comp or 7.6 of longshot. At 1.155 Have you been in touch with bobby carver? He has some of the best customer service I have ever experienced and , I have no doubt, will help you out. No I have not called Bobby yet, I guess I should. Thanks for all the info. Let me try to call Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I use the Carver mount, with a Fastfire 2. Of course, you will need to buy the Fastfire 2 plate, from Carver. Never having used one of those HUGE C-more thingys, I had no transition issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoops! Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I didn't like the Doctor or the Fastfire. I haven't looked in an XD in a long time but . . . your ejector isn't properly tuned for your mount. Worst case scenario, have a new one custom made to the appropriate shape and fitment. I wish I could remember the shape of the ejectors in my XDs . . . But they are probably a shape and girth you can file appropriately yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
818-DVC Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 My delta point has over 40k rds on it and holds perfect zero. It's on a Arredondo mount. Done much better than my Bevinized doctor slide ride which crapped out in 7k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B45C22 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 The deltapoint is a good optic, but I agree with the others that you are chasing the problem down the wrong path. Have the ejector tuned or the opening opened up some more so that your casings go out instead of up. Most slide ride optics will fail at a point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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