dirtypool40 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Ok, the obvious answer is Eric repeats. What's the scuttlebutt? Can Max knock him off? Any Rumors of a "Burner" return? Who will field the strongest team? What lesser known shooters will make the shoot off? have fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Not a lesser known shooter, but I think if Saul is shooting a trouble and jam free match, he'll be shooting for the title. Martin Kamenicek and Max Michel ahould be really close too. Of course, I'd put my money on Eric though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 What I've heard about the Burner is that if he shoots, it'll be in Standard. This is just local range innuendo, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I think Racaza is definetely in contention for winning....This year was basically a rebuilding year to tighten up for him and he would have been right behind Max this year if he didn't lose 45 points on the dark house because of the same thing that happened to TGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 I'd like to see "Team Old Fart" do well in standard and Jerry would obviously help that effort, but when I spoke to him back in June he seemed hungry, and concerned about the lack of focus on Open. I could really cheer for the Burner to come back and win the Open title. I've only met him the one time, but I was really impressed and am now a big fan. Besides if he shoots Open I don't have to choose between him, TJ and TGO for standard. Like that was ever an easy guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 With a large population, and a correspondingly large membership base, the USA has considerable depth in it's ranks, particularly when it comes to Teams, however there are many individuals around the world who have the ability to win individual gold in Open Division. For example, you can't ignore Aussies such as Brodie McIntosh (2004 Australian Open Champion), Errol Thomas (7th in the 2004 USPSA Nationals) and a few others. There are also a few up and coming stars in Europe, Asia and South America who are there or thereabouts. It's gonna be one helluva World Shoot next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Cutter Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Watch out for Stephen Hinojales from the Philippines. Remember the shoot off at the 2004 EC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Watch out for Stephen Hinojales from the Philippines. Remember the shoot off at the 2004 EC? Yeah, I saw him shoot a couple of stages. Man he is fast! And gets good points. Well, that's what IPSC is all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmshtr Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Usually, the faster flashy shooters aren't the ones who make out well at WS. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Eric is obviously the man to beat, but Eric isn't fast, until he really needs to be. I've only seen him in that mode a couple of times, both times shooting Standard/Limited. He really doesn't NEED to shoot fast in Open, because he points the crap out of everyone. Obviously, the most consistent Open shooters will do well. I'm pulling for JJ 100%, but there is a disaster factor there. If he can get that out of his system (and get his gun running 100%) in the next several months, then he'll definitely be a threat. I'm predicting a strong showing by Max, JJ, and Chris at WSXIV, as long as their heads are on straight. It's all about boring shooting...nothing spectacular. Take 35 8th place stage finishes, and take home the trophy. MAN! I wish I could follow my own advice! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Cutter Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 trivia: what's the common denominator? jet, jj, kc, jojo, lee, limcat, ogiebb, bulm540, stephen hinojales, eye cutter, jasonub, mc_oliver, 9mx, walangkatapat, lino, and of course our prancing purple pachyderm, rhino! oh, i forgot to include vince! hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 MAN! I wish I could follow my own advice! I know what you mean. Why do you think you can't follow your own advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 trivia: what's the common denominator? Too easy .............. we're all sex maniacs (way too much balut)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 trivia: what's the common denominator? jet, jj, kc, jojo, lee, limcat, ogiebb, bulm540, stephen hinojales, eye cutter, mc_oliver, 9mx, walangkatapat, lino, and of course our prancing purple pachyderm, rhino! oh, i forgot to include vince! hahaha! Easy: Philippine Islands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted November 9, 2004 Author Share Posted November 9, 2004 Hi, welcome back....Open at the World Shoot anyone? Eric Max Chris JJ Brodie Errol T. who else.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Waring Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 I am putting my money on Eric for sure, but who's to say a new guy we never heard of comes out and cleans house? Other than attending a US Nationals prior to the '99 WS, we never really heard of Eric in this part of the world. I think Saul will be in top 5 and if you pay attention to the circuit in Europe, Martin Kamenicek will likely be in the running as well. Max, JJ, and Chris will likely be tightly knit in the rankings. I am betting on Eric as he has proved his ability and match experience carries him through, he has 2 World titles, European titles, a couple wins at the US Nationals. His resume looks so good, I wouldn't bet on anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 I don't know if TJ is going, or if he would shoot Open...but, I think he is the only one that can beat Max and Eric. He would need to focus some time on that goal, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I predict a very close match between Eric and Max assuming no gun/mag failiures. Saul, Brodie, JJ, KC among others in the close lineup. How about that Hennig Walgren (can't recall the name exactly but he's that european blond shooting open) guy? And Jojo, is he going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 There are at least 15, but probably 25, competitors who have the ability to win Open Division at a World Shoot, but having a reliable gun, mags & ammunition is part and parcel of the preparations. Winning should never be about equipment reliability. If you attend a World Shoot and haven't prepared your kit 110%, and if you don't continually maintain it while you're there, you're simply not there to win. Whenever I trash a stage or a match, it's never because of my equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Whenever I trash a stage or a match, it's never because of my equipment. same with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 I have to respectfully disagree with you Vince, there may be 15-20 who can win a STAGE but not the match. that's a number more like 4-6. But again, just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9MX Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 trivia: what's the common denominator? jet, jj, kc, jojo, lee, limcat, ogiebb, bulm540, stephen hinojales, eye cutter, jasonub, mc_oliver, 9mx, walangkatapat, lino, and of course our prancing purple pachyderm, rhino! oh, i forgot to include vince! hahaha! and baron45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I have to respectfully disagree with you Vince, there may be 15-20 who can win a STAGE but not the match. that's a number more like 4-6. But again, just my opinion. Boy oh boy, you sure walked into that one! OK, here's a list of 24 names, in no particular order - you tell me who has no chance of winning World Shoot XIV: Eric Grauffel Todd Jarrett Rob Leatham JJ Racaza Max Tilley Brodie McIntosh Errol Thomas Jerry Barnhart Max Michel Saul Kirsch Angus Hobdell Jag Leujano KC Eusebio Henning Wallgren Stephen Hinojales Phil Strader Jojo Vidanes Travis Tomasie Chris Tilley Mike Voigt Frank Garcia Taran Butler Estuardo Gomez Doug Koenig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmshtr Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 A few of those have NO chance of winning Open at WS, since some will be shooting Standard! My prediction in Open: Eric Grauffel Max Michel Saul - if the gun gags JJ - if his consistency doesn't change Chris Limited: (2nd to 5th) Taran Rob Travis Heatseeker Modified: Who cares? Production: Turtle...with the UPSET! Dave....0001 match points behind Angus Matt M, Pete M, and Dave O tied for fourth! Revolver: Jerry M ______ ______ ______ Honestly, there are a LOT of shooters who can have 5 good days, and shock some people. It's all about staying consistent. When it all comes down to it, the only thing that matters is who wins. I wish everyone in Open/Production the best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Vince, are you saying you think any of these guys can win Open Division at the WS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Pinto Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Vince, are you saying you think any of these guys can win Open Division at the WS? Yes Sir, provided they actually shoot Open Division (Phil can be so hurtful at times) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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