jkrispies Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wondering if folks who own both a G17, G34, and a Blade Tech holster can tell me if a G34 will draw properly out of a Blade Tech G17 holster without the front blade hanging up on the draw? I'm looking at the design and it seems like the bearing surfaces of the holster are such that the gun should be controlled on the withdrawl enough to get the blade into the holster before it hangs up... but I'm not sure since I don't have a G34 to test it out on. Long version of the question (can be skipped!), I've been shooting a Gen 2 G17 off and on for the better part of two decades now. I'm toying with the idea of "upgrading" to a Gen 3 G34, with part of my reasoning that I can continue using all my old mags, guide rods, springs, and various sights collected over the years between the two guns. If I could use the same holster for both, I'd really only need to get the gun and maybe a trigger job. Ultimately, I'm looking at the G17 being set up as my IDPA/Steel Challenge Stock Service piece, and the G34 my USPSA Production gun... and both more or less being a backup for the other on match day. Thanks, J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 All my holsters are good for both if there is no bottom. If there is, then the extra length is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The G17 guide rod will not work in the G34, too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Front sight on a 34 is a different dimension too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Just get a 34 holster and you can use it for both. I don't like the slide hanging out of the bottom personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) The G17 guide rod will not work in the G34, too short. That's what I figured, but when I looked up guide rods at a few sights, they had the G17 and G34 listed with the same part numbers. Thought that was bizarre but not impossible depending on how glock designed it... like I said, I don't have a G34 to disassemble to check. Checked a couple more sites and you're right-- different sizes listed at the other sites. Can't remember where I saw the wrong info, but I think it was at one of the bigger online sellers like MidwayUSA or Brownells. Edited June 21, 2013 by jkrispies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Front sight on a 34 is a different dimension too. What do you mean by a different dimension? The mounting hole is different between a G17 and G34, or it's just a different height? I'll be swiiching the sights for sure, so the mounting hole is all that matters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The G17 guide rod will not work in the G34, too short.That's what I figured, but when I looked up guide rods at a few sights, they had the G17 and G34 listed with the same part numbers. Thought that was bizarre but not impossible depending on how glock designed it... like I said, I don't have a G34 to disassemble to check.Extended http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Tungsten-Guiderod-Extended-P1997.aspx Standard http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Stainless-Steel-Guiderod-P1998.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 The G17 guide rod will not work in the G34, too short.That's what I figured, but when I looked up guide rods at a few sights, they had the G17 and G34 listed with the same part numbers. Thought that was bizarre but not impossible depending on how glock designed it... like I said, I don't have a G34 to disassemble to check.Extended http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Tungsten-Guiderod-Extended-P1997.aspxStandard http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Stainless-Steel-Guiderod-P1998.aspx Got it. Like I said, didn't make much sense to me when I saw those part numbers at the other place. Again, "toying with the idea" is the operative term that I started with. The more I'm thinking about, I'm tempted to just set up the Glock for Production (already have the parts for it) and if I want to dabble in the IDPA realm, to just do it with my 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Front sight on a 34 is a different dimension too. What do you mean by a different dimension? The mounting hole is different between a G17 and G34, or it's just a different height? I'll be swiiching the sights for sure, so the mounting hole is all that matters to me. The height is different. I can't recall which is taller, but one is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 With Dawson, the 17 front sight is .285, on the 34, it's .300 in height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 With Dawson, the 17 front sight is .285, on the 34, it's .300 in height. I love you guys! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 With Dawson, the 17 front sight is .285, on the 34, it's .300 in height.This is with the Dawson adjustable rear, not sure about the fixed rear. The front mounting hole is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob01 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The G17 guide rod will not work in the G34, too short.That's what I figured, but when I looked up guide rods at a few sights, they had the G17 and G34 listed with the same part numbers. Thought that was bizarre but not impossible depending on how glock designed it... like I said, I don't have a G34 to disassemble to check.Extended http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Tungsten-Guiderod-Extended-P1997.aspxStandard http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Stainless-Steel-Guiderod-P1998.aspx Not always the case. I have seen alot of other aftermarkets listed for both 17 and 34 as well as the actual Glock Factory piece http://www.midwayusa.com/product/355643/glock-guide-rod-and-recoil-spring-assembly-glock-17-22-24-31-34-35-37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 The G17 guide rod will not work in the G34, too short.That's what I figured, but when I looked up guide rods at a few sights, they had the G17 and G34 listed with the same part numbers. Thought that was bizarre but not impossible depending on how glock designed it... like I said, I don't have a G34 to disassemble to check.Extended http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Tungsten-Guiderod-Extended-P1997.aspxStandard http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Glockworx-ZT-Stainless-Steel-Guiderod-P1998.aspx Not always the case. I have seen alot of other aftermarkets listed for both 17 and 34 as well as the actual Glock Factory piece http://www.midwayusa.com/product/355643/glock-guide-rod-and-recoil-spring-assembly-glock-17-22-24-31-34-35-37 THERE IT IS! I'M NOT ENTIRELY CRAZY!!! So... what the heck is going on? Is Midway USA incorrect, or are they interchangeable??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob01 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 That's not Midway product but a Glock factory product so I would say they are interchangeable as Glock says they are. Not the only one either. http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=393&CAT=157 http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=909&CAT=79 http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=155992&CAT=83 http://www.glockstore.com/stainless-steel-competition-recoil-spring-for-glocks http://www.glockstore.com/tungsten-competition-recoil-spring-for-glocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Just get a 34 holster and you can use it for both. I don't like the slide hanging out of the bottom personally +1. I have an uncle mike G17 holster that I used while my BladeTech holster was on order. ( I'm left handed). The 34 hung up a liitle, now my G17 works great out of my G34 holster. I just use the 34 holster for both weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) The factory guide rods for the G17 and G34 are identical. You can see the end of the unit in the 17, but not in the 34. The 34 can take an aftermarket extended guide rod that some folks prefer because they can get the extra weight into the gun in a place where it may help dampen recoil. The extra length will be visible in the 34. The slide travel is the same in both models, regardless of the length of the rod used. My Blade Tech 34 holster will take any Glock with the same frame size and the same or shorter slide. That should be true of any similar holster. A 17 holster will only take the longer 34 if it is open ended, allowing the extra length to protrude. Most Kydex holsters are rigid enough in their molding to hold the longer slide so there is no snagging of the front sight in the sight channel during the draw, but only trying will tell. Regulation of iron sights is very much an individual thing. You may or may not like different combinations of FS/RS depending on what YOU like for POI vs POA and how your load, grip and trigger press affect it. My two cents... Edited June 22, 2013 by kevin c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 Okay, so concensus seems to be coming around that: 1. My G17 guide rods and springs will work in a G34 and 2. My open ended G17 holster will probably work for a G34, but it needs to be tried out to know for sure. (Probably just use it till I can afford to get a dedicated holster.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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