jimbullet Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Hi New to the STI Edge, I noticed it has a recoil master on it. I have been reading a few things about them in this forum, some good and some bad. Anyway, I want to replace it with a traditional full length guide rod so I can tinker with the recoil spring weight that suited by taste in felt recoil based on the loads I have. Having owned single stack 1911's before, these were a simple drop in part. My question is, can I simply buy any FLGR and just drop it in? I noticed there are products now that have a bevel on the rear part of the FLGR located near the barrel link lug at the base of the barrel (hope I have described it well enough). Should I be concerned whether the replacement FLGR has this bevel or not? Can I get away without this bevel without damaging anything? Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 The Dawson Precision tooless guide rod is a drop in and a great product. I have one in mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 I couldnt find any online photo of the Dawson's rear but is that bevelled at its rear or is it contoured as all other traditional FLGR ? The Dawson tool less looks great but can I get away with say a traditional FLGR without any bevel on the rear head, and not cause damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerslide91 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I'm interested in the answer as well... Total noob question, but does bull or bushing barrel make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matgyver Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I'm interested in the answer as well... Total noob question, but does bull or bushing barrel make a difference? Bull barrels will require a reverse plug, but the rest of the parts are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 You can use any FLGR. Reuse the reverse plug that came with the gun. If you get a FLGR without a take-down hole and use it in a bull barrel gun, you'll need to drill your own hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 I'm interested in the answer as well... Total noob question, but does bull or bushing barrel make a difference? My understanding is bull barrels are more accurate as you dont have an additional piece in between the slide and the barrel which is the bushing. In theory, the lock up is tight providing better accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 You can use any FLGR. Reuse the reverse plug that came with the gun. If you get a FLGR without a take-down hole and use it in a bull barrel gun, you'll need to drill your own hole. Thanks, so the dimensions inside are that of the traditional 1911, at least in the area where the barrel link is. I will make sure to drill a hole on the FLGR if the one I get doesnt have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Here is a pic of the back of the Dawson Tooless guide rod. That the bevel you were talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 Here is a pic of the back of the Dawson Tooless guide rod. That the bevel you were talking about? Yup thats the one. So there is a bevel on it apparently. So I wonder if the FLGR that I get does not have that, will it damage the pistol or otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Or you could just file it to match to front profile of the lower lug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACKIE40X40 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 ok, base772 that picture is used for bull barrels only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Jackie40x40 In short, no. You will find that configuration in many bushing barrels. -john Edited April 8, 2013 by practical_man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACKIE40X40 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I broke a guide rod in by edge awhile back, replace it with the dawson tool less. that picture threw up a red flag for me, there is about .020 difference in that notch, between old and new. can it have that variation? or was my old one that worn? thanks Jackie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 ok, base772 that picture is used for bull barrels only? I do not know if there is a difference in the Guide Rod between a bull barrel and a bushing barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACKIE40X40 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLI45 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Recently replaced the guide rods in one of my Eagles and in one of my Trojans with Dawson Tool Less guide rods. Excellent product. Plan on doing the same with my Sentinel. All are bushing barrels. Haven't tried it on any of my bull barrel pistols. Edited April 10, 2013 by GLI45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Hi New to the STI Edge, I noticed it has a recoil master on it. I have been reading a few things about them in this forum, some good and some bad. Anyway, I want to replace it with a traditional full length guide rod so I can tinker with the recoil spring weight that suited by taste in felt recoil based on the loads I have. Having owned single stack 1911's before, these were a simple drop in part. My question is, can I simply buy any FLGR and just drop it in? I noticed there are products now that have a bevel on the rear part of the FLGR located near the barrel link lug at the base of the barrel (hope I have described it well enough). Should I be concerned whether the replacement FLGR has this bevel or not? Can I get away without this bevel without damaging anything? Cheers Jim For what its worth if you want the same feel as with the recoilmaster. Use an 11lb variable power Wolff recoil spring. The measured spring weight of the Heavy recoilmaster is 11lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbullet Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Hi New to the STI Edge, I noticed it has a recoil master on it. I have been reading a few things about them in this forum, some good and some bad. Anyway, I want to replace it with a traditional full length guide rod so I can tinker with the recoil spring weight that suited by taste in felt recoil based on the loads I have. Having owned single stack 1911's before, these were a simple drop in part. My question is, can I simply buy any FLGR and just drop it in? I noticed there are products now that have a bevel on the rear part of the FLGR located near the barrel link lug at the base of the barrel (hope I have described it well enough). Should I be concerned whether the replacement FLGR has this bevel or not? Can I get away without this bevel without damaging anything? Cheers Jim For what its worth if you want the same feel as with the recoilmaster. Use an 11lb variable power Wolff recoil spring. The measured spring weight of the Heavy recoilmaster is 11lbs. Thanks for that. I am planning on getting both a 12lb and an 11 lb to see how they feel for me. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011WRBSTI Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Been reading a lot while awaiting the Edges to arrive for me and my wife. Not too many good things said about Recoil Masters.....Let me tell you this for anyone still wondering......My Edge....Smooth as glass slide rack with the brand new Recoil Master.....Wife's Edge...SAND PAPER slide rack with brand new Recoil Master....the serial numbers are literally 1 number apart ( last number ) and test fired same day......that shows the inconsistency that comes with them. Dawson Precision Tool Less FL Guide rod is next purchase with multiple spring lbs to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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