lenf Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 This past weekend our club used classifier 09-13, Table Stakes. The start position is seated fully in chair, gun and ammo to be used must be on table. The procedure is to engage targets from within shooting box. When it was my turn to shoot I placed a leg (or two) of the chair outside the shooting box. I planned to stand up and engage the targets from within the box. The RO said the chair had to be within the box. I pointed out there was nothing in the written COF as to the start location of the chair. His reply was that the drawing showed the chair inside the shooting box. I believe the location of the chair at the start does not matter. It would be in the written description. Was the RO correct or can I move the chair? (I started with the chair in the box)........Len Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) A stage diagram is not required in the rulebook. However, we use them because "A picture is worth a thousand words." If a stage diagram has the chair in the box, then the orientation and position illustrated are PART of the WSB and therefore must be followed. The RO was correct. Edited December 13, 2012 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 In the box. Also classifiers are specifically not to be gamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 1.2.2.2 “Classifiers” – Courses of fire published by USPSA, which are available to competitors seeking a National classification. Classifiers must be set-up in accordance with these rules and be conducted strictly in accordance with the notes and diagrams accompanying them. Results must be submitted to the publishing entity in the format required (with the applicable fees, if any), in order to be recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVZ Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What wise and on the ball RO's your Club must have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StravIs09 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Even if you don't agree with the replies you have received. The USPSA sets up these classifiers so that everyone in the country can shoot (within reason) the same exact classifier in order to compare yourself to other shooters around the country. Standing up takes time. staying seated got me a very good time. I think i set the bar pretty high....9.11 HF in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenf Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 I do not disagree with any of the comments posted on this one. Having built so many stages myself, I would have put something specific about the chair in the written description, but that's just me. I shot this stage sitting down in the past and discovered I pull shots a little low when sitting. So, this time I stood up and had a mike who knows where ??? !!! grrrrr..... Our small club is very lucky to have some good RO's. We have one fellow who carries a laminated xerox copy of the DQ rules in his pocket at all times. We call him Doctor DQ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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