Exgreenberet Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I want to put a red dot sight on my wife's GSG 1911. It is the standard model - no bottom rail. So I need a mount that screws into the frame/dust cover. I also want one that sits as low to the frame as possible, may even remove the iron sights. I am starting to lean towards the C-More Serendipity, but I'm not sure which model. I have seen different model numbers for different size frames, and I don't know which would fit the GSG. Also not sure if ejection would be a problem with the mount going over both sides of the frame. I am open to any suggestions though. If you have a low mounted red dot on a GSG I would love to see it or get some input from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Serendipity will not get the optic low on the gun like you want. For just casual shooting I would probably put a JPoint on it. http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/JPoint-Micro-Electronic-Reflex-Sight-8-MOA-P1025.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Here are some pictures and commentary about slide ride mounting: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=154025&st=25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exgreenberet Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the input guys. I have a Burris FF on my ruger, but I always thought one mounted on a 1911 style slide could not take the abuse. Two questions on the Jpoint and Burris; can they really take the abuse and do they have dovetail mounts that fit the GSG? We shoot quite a bit - around 200-400 rounds per week Edited November 22, 2012 by Exgreenberet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Look on the JP website for mounts. You would probably have to measure the slide cut to see what it might match up with. It's fairly new and doubt if you would find a mount that said it was for that brand of gun. I'd recommend one melted in like in the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 but I always thought one mounted on a 1911 style slide could not take the abuse. Two questions on the Jpoint and Burris; can they really take the abuse and do they have dovetail mounts that fit the GSG? The GSG is a .22 right? I see slide ride sights on full Open guns that seem to be holding up. I would venture to guess any sight you want fitted will require gunsmith type involvement to make it right. Especially your less mainstream brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Slide mount or use a regular cmore and a 90 degree mount. The 22 slide ride is fine as it is not near as violent as the open guns with 9mm major that have had some problems. If you have a good smith that can install the cmore mount then the 90 degree keeps it low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I haven't put a lot of rounds through my GSG. Is it a dovetail cut? If so, why not use the C-More STS and mount it via the dovetail. I would love to do it to mine and make it a steel-gun. Edited November 22, 2012 by polizei1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 You could cause reliability issues with a slide mounted optic because it adds weight to the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 You could cause reliability issues with a slide mounted optic because it adds weight to the slide. 1.16 OZ isn't much. That would be easy to compensate for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I'd guess that if you had it melted in, the metal removed would be somewhat equal to the sight weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Well, the GSG does have a zinc slide, so yea, it actually might be an issue, even at 1.6oz. Try it and see if it works, if it doesn't, mount it via the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primo86gt Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 GSG has its own dovetail cuts, some have had dovetail recut to fit sights of your choice, Somewhere there was a thread about filing them out yourself.... these guys make replacement sights but no red dot.. http://www.dawsonprecision.com/SearchResults.jsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knedrgr Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Sounds interesting. Wouldn't mind seeing how this project turns out. I have a GSG 1911, and use only iron sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) You could cause reliability issues with a slide mounted optic because it adds weight to the slide. 1.16 OZ isn't much. That would be easy to compensate for. you would be surprised. All 22s are sketchy , including this one. I've been working through some reliability issues with my GSG1911. 1.1 oz is a lot on a slide that was already designed to be light as possible. Edited November 26, 2012 by Roy Hess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I think we have a GSG guru at C-ville. Chet Whistle runs them in Steel challenge and sets them up. He shoots a red dot. I'll see if I can find more info. [Edit to add...] Got his website... http://www.cwaccessories.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 According to Burris, the FastFire III weighs 0.9 of an ounce, probably without the battery. Imagine it would weigh about an ounce with battery. Slide mounted, should weigh pretty close to the same on the slide after removal of the metal for the mounting area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I had a c-more Serendipity put on my Kimber 22(not a conversion but the light 22 model they make) and it is a great steel gun. I also added a flared maxwell and oversized mag release an 15 round Ceiner mags. I love this gun and vey accurate and quick for shooting steel challenge. I highly recommend the c-more red dots. Have them on my open STI open guns also. Bob "The Captain" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike240 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I used a JP mount and put a Fastfire on mine. It required filing out the dovetail to true Novak spec. It has run great with a few thousand rounds of Federal bulk pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docscoutjr Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I have just joined the GSG club, and have an itch to build up a "nice" steel challenge gun. Wanting to know if anyone has any real experience with slide mounted sights or if I should just stick with the tried and true frame mount. IMHO I can't see how 32 grams will slow down the slide that much and seems to be a better option than adding almost 4 times that much to the gun for a cmore system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) The slide mount is fine if you don't wanna modify the fun. I would probibally go with a regular cmore though Edited April 10, 2013 by EkuJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 IMHO I can't see how 32 grams will slow down the slide that much... All the energy to run the system comes from those little .22 rounds. Lots of springs, frictions, and weights to overcome already. I don't have any hard data to go off of, but my gut tells me to not add resistance/work load to the system with little 22's. (I do have plenty of experience watching 22's not run in various matches that I shoot and RO.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I've used both slide ride and frame mounted optics and I've noticed that a frame mounted cmore is faster and has a better view than any slide mounted option. I can shoot a pistol with irons faster than a slide mounted optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I've used both slide ride and frame mounted optics and I've noticed that a frame mounted cmore is faster and has a better view than any slide mounted option. I can shoot a pistol with irons faster than a slide mounted optic. That is a good point too. Apart from the mechanical operation/function of the gun itself, a moving (and smaller) optic just isn't as easy to see (quickly) as frame mounted red dot. Plus, with a frame mount, you might be able to go with a full sized Cmore...which give a better view than the mini dots anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docscoutjr Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 True, true, and true.... It just seemed like a slightly more elegant solution to slide mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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