Noximus03 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 What are you guys running for loads to make a nice minor load? Please include load data and gun set up in your responses. Trying to get a nice soft load for the wife since it will be her 1st season shooting. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Precision Delta 124gr 4.5gr Win 231 CCI SPP #500 Mixed Brass OAL - 1.140" PF - 132-135 That's the load I'm currently using. More than likely, I'll be switching to HP-38 (same stuff) and to MG Bullets for next season. The only thing I have done to my Spartan is a 9lb recoil spring, 17lb mainspring, DP No-gap magwell, grip tape on the front strap, and DP magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 MG 147 CMJ 3.5 N320 WSP Mixed brass OAL 1.145 Colt gov't mdl 9mm Very consistent at 131-132 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingJockey Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) MG 124 CMJ 4.1 N320 WSP Or CCI Starline brass OAL 1.135 HK P30 Great load for the wife...soft recoil, clean, PF 130 Edited October 17, 2012 by PingJockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Thanks for the info so far. Was wondering if any of you have ran a load out with Autocomp (other than the one above) or titegroup? Just getting into this reloading game, and welcome all load data with various powders. Shame to say, I really dont know much about powders or which ones are beneficial/detrimental to my goal. I know what I like for Open guns, but not much knowledge at all for minor loads. Also would like to know your OAL's and more detail on why some of you are using longer, and shorter lengths. FYI, before I get jumped.....I used the search function on here, and posted so that I may get more specific detail to answer my question/s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Most common from what I see are MG bullets (124gr usually) paired with N320,N340, Win 231/HP-38, or Titegroup. I chose the longer OAL because when I tested my loads, I tested several OAL's from 1.12-1.16. 1.140" happened to be the most accurate out of my gun, and it feeds reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-Bros_JLR Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Favorite for me was 4.0g of Titegroup behind a MG 124 CMJ @ 1.14". I ran it down to about 3.8g and still made minor, but it felt a little too sluggish to me. All the loads were accurate and you could probably get away with 3.7-3.8g for her and still make minor. It'd be super cush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 My Trojan runs (and feels) best with a 135+pf load. I like wuss loads but the heavy slide makes for a clunky feeling light load. I use 4.2gr of Titegroup or N320 under a 124gr MG JHP @ 1.125". Since the Spartan uses a traditional (non-ramped) you may need to use round nose bullets. 4.6gr WST under a 127gr poly-coated lead RN also runs nicely (same OAL). I run a 10lb Wolff recoil and 17lb ISMI main spring. Aftec extractor (springs compressed for 10 seconds per the directions). Bottom of stock extended ejector filed to clear slammed mags. Most of my mags are older Wilson ETM (no 10th witness hole) with one coil clipped to allow the mag to be seated 10+1 without worries. . ( I took a Todd Green class and he was running new ETM mags that didn't require a coil cut off. He loaded them up and left them alone for a few days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 P.S. Dawson mags are supposedly the new hotness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 4.0 gr Titegroup and a 124/125 JHP is a pretty standard load that (usually) makes 129-134pf depending on your gun. I also run 3.6gr Titegroup and a 147 Montana CMJ through my 9mm 1911. (3.4 is probably enough, but I don't like to sweat the chrono) OAL's will vary depending on your setup/mags and what your gun likes to run. I set the oal for reliability and accuracy. 9-10 lb recoil spring, and a 17lb main spring. Metalform 10rd mags run about any bullet I've tried. Tripps nosedive with JHP (in my gun). Wilson's sit to high and hit the ejector in my gun and Dawson's are out of my price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Mmmm, the Dawson Mags are simply awesome. Well worth the money IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Very good to hear that most of you are running in the 1.14-1.145 range. I run a Glock open gun and load to 1.142. I've heard alot of good things for Titegroup for a minor load. Just asking a general opinion here, but how to any of you feel about a 9-10# recoil spring and a 15# main with your loads IF you've tried them? I ask this knowing full well that I'll have to try and taylor a load to best suit the wife, just want to see what you all thought of that spring/load combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 No idea..I haven't tried any other combo, but 9-10 and a 17 seem to be the most used. I can only speak for myself, but I've had nothing much great results. 9mm in a 5" 1911 has lower recoil as it is. Couple that with a dedicated load just above PF and she'll be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've used a 15, and it would ignite well seated Federal primers. I just didnt see the benefit, especially if I had one not get seated all the way and it caused a light strike. What would be the reason of using a 15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Just seen a few topics where guys are using (and loving) the 15/9# spring combo with a minor load. Just trying to taylor the gun/load to my wife. She grew up shooting, but not like we shoot in our sport, so this is something very new to her. One thing is certain......no matter what I do, she will be blowing through a TON of practice ammo, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 147gr berrys 3.2gr of titegroup OAL 1.16 pf 134 8lb recoil spring whatever is stock main spring, but i may be playing with that soon only problem with it is that it is dirty as hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 I gotcha, I've heard titegroup is a great powder to run a minor load with. I'm just curious, but how would a small magnum primer affect a minor load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Why would you even want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 didnt say anything about wanting to.....just curious. Lets face it, its not like Federal primers are in a surplus anywhere. Just asking a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Generally magnum primers range from no difference to 30+ fps. Drop your charge a little and chrono. Sometimes magnums are a little harder to light off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxerglocker Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) I run a Spartan with 10lb Wolff recoil and 17lb ISMI main spring. Dawson NO-Gap magwell and Tripp mags with Dawson base pads. I too filed the bottom of stock extended ejector to clear slammed mags. Dawson .100 FO front sight and extended mag release button that my gunsmith supplied me from his box of extra parts. Load is a 135RN Bear Creek moly bullets is 4.0 WST at 1.150 OAL. Chronos right at 1000 FPS on my personal chrono and and officially at several matches right at 1020. Edited October 22, 2012 by Boxerglocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Generally magnum primers range from no difference to 30+ fps. Drop your charge a little and chrono. Sometimes magnums are a little harder to light off. Got it, thats the answer I was looking for. Thanks a bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan N Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I run a Spartan with 10lb Wolff recoil and 17lb ISMI main spring. Dawson NO-Gap magwell and Tripp mags with Dawson base pads. I too filed the bottom of stock extended ejector to clear slammed mags. Dawson .100 FO front sight and extended mag release button that my gunsmith supplied me from his box of extra parts. Load is a 135RN Bear Creek moly bullets is 4.0 WST at 1.150 OAL. Chronos right at 1000 FPS on my personal chrono and and officially at several matches right at 1020. How is the smoke with this load. I also use moly and have been serching for "the" load. BTW, 135gr moly with W231 is NOT the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Stick with a 17 lb mainspring. I personally like VV N-320 powder as it is extremely consistant metering and also vey clean burning. The only draw back is the price but no more than you are using per round 4lbs will go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxerglocker Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I run a Spartan with 10lb Wolff recoil and 17lb ISMI main spring. Dawson NO-Gap magwell and Tripp mags with Dawson base pads. I too filed the bottom of stock extended ejector to clear slammed mags. Dawson .100 FO front sight and extended mag release button that my gunsmith supplied me from his box of extra parts. Load is a 135RN Bear Creek moly bullets is 4.0 WST at 1.150 OAL. Chronos right at 1000 FPS on my personal chrono and and officially at several matches right at 1020. How is the smoke with this load. I also use moly and have been serching for "the" load. BTW, 135gr moly with W231 is NOT the answer. Minimal smoke, runs very clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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