Tokarev Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 The title says it all. I have emailed IDPA but not heard back from them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 My guess would be NOT, but it might fall under the "understood" but not mentioned aspect of IDPA rules, like pinning the grip safety...if you can't see it, it is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 The rules say that a full length guiderod can be used as long as it's not made from material heavier than regular steel. Shouldn't that mean the Recoil Master is allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Perez Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 what are you putting the RM in? Single stack or STI widebody? Don't over the counter STI's come with one in place? This doesn't look like a common full length GR to me.It does resemble the one used on a Glock 26 for example- sort of. I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision40 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I can't see why it would be illegal. It's definitely lighter, not heavier than a factory guide-rod. IMHO I would consider it an internal reliablity modification and therefore "should" be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I see no reason why it wouldn't, in no way is it heavier than an ordinary steel guide rod. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLefty Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 The recoil master has been included in all complete STI's since 2002. So it is the factory guide rod ?? for their line of pistols. Don't know if that makes any difference in IPDA. Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted July 17, 2004 Author Share Posted July 17, 2004 I contacted IDPA about this and they said the RM is a NO GO. It seems that since the Recoil Master is marketed as a "recoil master" it isn't allowed. I wonder if it'd be legal if it was marketed as some kind of frame saver like the Shok-Buff. Oh! That's right! Bill Wilson is IDPA! I forgot that for a moment. So all you guys using Springfield XD's in IDPA will have to replace your factory dual spring rods with single spring rods. Of course I coulod just use the damned thing. Nobody would ever notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Perez Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 (edited) Of course I coulod just use the damned thing. Nobody would ever notice. And most importantly , nobody would care . On second thought , if it is lighter than a FLGR , wouldn't it be a disadvantage? Edited July 18, 2004 by Mark Perez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Lots of other companies make similar set ups marketed under a different type device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 New information. The answer is now - YES. I just got this from the MD for the Texas State IDPA Match. Below is a statement from IDPA HQ in regards to “dual action” recoil springs. In essence, they have been legalized for the 2010 season. Here is the statement from Robert Ray. IDPA headquarters has been following the industry trend of moving to dual spring recoil systems in handguns. These have historically been mosty found in short barreled semiautos, but more and more companies are using them in full sized guns. Thus we have decided to that dual spring recoil systems, using metals no heavier than carbon or stainless steel, will be legal for use in IDPA. This will include all Divisions. To be specific, the STI Recoil Master guide rods in their existing (2009) configuration and Generation 4 Glocks will be legal. This should save us headaches at TX State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 New information. The answer is now - YES. I just got this from the MD for the Texas State IDPA Match. Below is a statement from IDPA HQ in regards to “dual action” recoil springs. In essence, they have been legalized for the 2010 season. Here is the statement from Robert Ray. IDPA headquarters has been following the industry trend of moving to dual spring recoil systems in handguns. These have historically been mosty found in short barreled semiautos, but more and more companies are using them in full sized guns. Thus we have decided to that dual spring recoil systems, using metals no heavier than carbon or stainless steel, will be legal for use in IDPA. This will include all Divisions. To be specific, the STI Recoil Master guide rods in their existing (2009) configuration and Generation 4 Glocks will be legal. This should save us headaches at TX State Halleluiah! Finally a reasoned rule change for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Let's keep those kind of comments to a minimum. Ideally, zero. Please read the guidelines for posting in the IDPA forum. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Put the light Recoil Master in my 9mm Trojan, looking forward to shooting it Saturday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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