rq375 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 regarding the rules and procedures for ROs at a steel match: I had an experience over the weekend that just doesn't sit right. At a local club steel match I was in a squad of 12 shooters three of which were also ROs. One of the shooter/ROs stood behind the shooting box and had rather loud conversations all day when he was not shooting or ROing. This individual was asked to quiet down several times by the other ROs, but continued to do so after a brief pause. The loud talker RO had a shooter standing in the box, and took a phone call before giving the make ready. When I was up, I was standing in the box for what was probably not that long, but definately longer than normal while the loud talker RO had a conversation behind me, one of the other ROs said "hey, you know you have a shooter in the box ready to go?" at that point loud talker turned around and said "oh ok, uh, make ready", as I made ready, he turned back around and continued his conversation. As I waited for the shooter ready for what seemed like an unusual length of time, the RO finally turned back around and said "yeah, uh, whenever you are ready". While I know I must learn to deal with outside interference, I do not think the above behavior was appropriate due to first time shooters and the junior on our squad. What I don't know is if any of the above is actually against any rules, and if I could/should have done anything more than complain to the other RO. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Darned inconsiderate of the RO. When I have a shooter in the box, all my attention is on the shooter, outside conversations are uncalled for. You could bring it to the attention of the MD. Since it was a local match, there probably isn't much you can do, except explain to the new/junior shooters, that the way he was RO'ing wasn't proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I totally agree with KMCA. Next time, go to the MD (after giving him warning first) and inform them of the situation. It is their job to institute a safe and productive environment for each shooter. I am sure they would have done something different. I am a MD for my local Steel Challenge match and I would have removed him from being an RO and asked him to either keep conversations down or not to participate. Sorry you had to experience that but that is not the norm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHARP2 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I would have asked someone else to take the timer for my run, and would have made sure that he didnt run me for the est of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renzo808 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 RANGE OFFICER'S CREED "During the course of a stage, my attention shall be clearly focused on the particular competitor I am assigned to observe, and I shall not permit my attention to be misdirected or lax." Very irresponsible of the RO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Darned inconsiderate of the RO. When I have a shooter in the box, all my attention is on the shooter, outside conversations are uncalled for. You could bring it to the attention of the MD. Since it was a local match, there probably isn't much you can do, except explain to the new/junior shooters, that the way he was RO'ing wasn't proper. I agree in part, but the MD can DQ for 8.3.2 of SCSA provisional rules and should do so and NOT accept this behavior. It makes everyone look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 regarding the rules and procedures for ROs at a steel match: I had an experience over the weekend that just doesn't sit right. At a local club steel match I was in a squad of 12 shooters three of which were also ROs. One of the shooter/ROs stood behind the shooting box and had rather loud conversations all day when he was not shooting or ROing. This individual was asked to quiet down several times by the other ROs, but continued to do so after a brief pause. The loud talker RO had a shooter standing in the box, and took a phone call before giving the make ready. When I was up, I was standing in the box for what was probably not that long, but definately longer than normal while the loud talker RO had a conversation behind me, one of the other ROs said "hey, you know you have a shooter in the box ready to go?" at that point loud talker turned around and said "oh ok, uh, make ready", as I made ready, he turned back around and continued his conversation. As I waited for the shooter ready for what seemed like an unusual length of time, the RO finally turned back around and said "yeah, uh, whenever you are ready". While I know I must learn to deal with outside interference, I do not think the above behavior was appropriate due to first time shooters and the junior on our squad. What I don't know is if any of the above is actually against any rules, and if I could/should have done anything more than complain to the other RO. Thanks Is this RO actually certified by any organization or just playing RO? Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rq375 Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Is this RO actually certified by any organization or just playing RO? Pat He was USPSA RO certified earlier this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind bat Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Try to find the match director's contact info and call or email him. A two minute conversation with the MD will keep this guy from causing more problems next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosshooter00 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Definitely contact the MD. If this guy just received his RO, then it is obvious he didn't learn anything and the MD should be made aware. Locally we have enough problems recruiting new shooters without an idiot looking to improve his social status by becoming an RO running them off. The MD will definitely want to be made aware rather than hear it through the grapevine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 If he's not paying 100% attention to the shooter on the line, the he isn't an RO. At best: he's an annoyance. Worse: he's going to miss something and somebody can get hurt bad. Worst: he isn't paying attention and causes a distraction/hinderance to the guy on the line (imagine a USPSA match where the shooter concentrating on his run collides with him because he's checking his phone), and he causes a potentially fatal accident. More than it being your right to report him to the MD, I would argue that it's your responsibility. Report him (and he's probably already been reported by others before you or in your squad), and then brush it off and shoot another match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Is this RO actually certified by any organization or just playing RO? Pat He was USPSA RO certified earlier this month. I'd call the RO course instructor and have a nice conversation hoping a chastizing from an RMI would be beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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