TerryYu Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I was wondering if anyone has loaded titegroup behind a 230gr lrn Missouri bullet and lived to tell the tale. I dug up a load on hodgson's website for 4.0gr of titegroup at 1.20 that is supposed to make major. Has anyone chrono something similar? I'm going to shoot it out of a normal length 1911. The second question is should I keep titegroup or swap it out with clays. Seems like everyone shoots it so it must be good. Amiright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Fresh Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I ran 230gr LRN cast by a local guy for a few months with titegroup, I always got lots of smoke. I prefer the clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Is clays really good about smoking? I shoot some matchs indoors and would hate to have three headed children. I can swap to clays pretty easily. I only loaded about 70 with titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Fresh Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 clays isn't as bad as titegroup IMO. lots of people use clays as their standard 45 load here, both lead and jacketed. give clays a try it's a pretty soft shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 I will. I'll swing by the gun shop and buy a pound of clays. Then I'll load 50 and shoot them side by side and I'll post back and tell you what I think. What powder do you think smokes the least? I could try some of that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Fresh Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 you've hit the two I run already. I use titegroup in most jacketed loads in 9/40/45 to keep things simple but I prefer clays for lead 45. you can try a search in the 45 reloader section but I bet you a donut most people recommended clays......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo45 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 +1 on Clays - lead or FMJ. Titegroup runs too hot in my 625 revo. Gave me blisters on long COF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ouch! I do notice my 9s have blazing hot barrels after shooting titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Fresh Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 it gets plenty warm and dirty, but it's a good cheap powder too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Got my bottle of clays. Time to play. Edit: Loaded up 50 230gr LRNs with 4.0gr of Clays at 1.265-1.270. Headed to the range to shoot them against 50 230gr LRNs with 4gr of Titegroup at 1.20. Edited April 14, 2012 by EatsShootsandLeafs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Fresh Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm now tingling with anticipation.................................... come on free donut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 There you go. The Clays smoked less than Titegroup, although they were both mega smokers. It's like saying the Exxon Valdez is less damaging than Deepwater Horizon. I was still standing in a personal smoke screen after 8 rounds of either rapid fire, but I could still see the target after shooting the Clays. I was getting the occasional, "What's he shooting?" from the mall ninjas next to me in between them making 2 foot groups and shooting down the target carrier I need to tweak my load a bit. Seems like it's not quite as accurate as my Bayou coated 200grs. I was having a flyer every mag or two and was making probably a 4 inch group at 15 yards freehanding, while the Bayous were grouping within an inch. I'll have to practice more with the 230gr before I make a solid conclusion on them, seemed like my 200grs were snappier and sights reset a bit faster but I'm no where good enough to take advantage of that yet. The 230s felt pretty good. Solid recoil but very manageable, makes me feel like I can drive the gun about as fast as my 9mms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I used 4.2 Titegroup with the Missouri 230 grain bullet at 1.255 OAL for 743f/s. They are supposed to be a bit softer than most of the commercial loaders. Didn't notice anything bad. All lead bullets will smoke, under certain weather conditions, or indoors, it can be pretty noticable. 3.7 Clays gave the same velocity. All in a 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbacrabb Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I dont know if I'm just lucky or what but I shoot a lot of MBC Softballs out of my 1911's using unique and they dont smoke much at all. Sometimes the first round or two does a little, then it magically dissapears to nothing. I load 231 in it also but have noticed it smokes more than Unique for me. I have heard great things about clays though in 45, not so much in 9 though. Unique though I load in every pistol caliber with great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bshooter Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I have started using Ramshot Competition with 230 LRN from SnS Casting and am happy with the performance. Powder is relatively inexpensive and meters well on my 550. I have been using 3.7 grains and makes major. I also use it in my 9mm 147 grain LTC. Doesn't smoke any more or less that any other powder I have used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryYu Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 I've shot a couple hundred missouries with clays and I've found them to be a bit inaccurate. I'm going to try bullseye powder and see if my groups tighten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) Keep the clays and try the Missouri Bullets 200gr LSWC. Think you might like that combo better. here is a 25yd group with the above. Edited May 2, 2012 by Steve RA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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