APL-G35 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Alright guys. Does anyone make a drop in 2011 trigger that will put me down around a 2lb trigger pull? Or are the trigger parts interchangeable 1911/2011? I'm new to this platform and need some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Most triggers are drop in, or can drop in with very little fitting. You'll be disappointed, though, since it's not the trigger that changes the trigger pull weight. It's the interaction of the hammer, sear, and springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 For a trigger like your wanting, your really going to have to get a smith to do it for you. Freedomgunworks does a trigger job with new parts for 150. Well worth the extra money over a dropin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APL-G35 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sorry, I guess I should have been clearer. Does anyone make a kit with springs and sear and or hammer that's a reasonable drop in. I'm looking for something that won't require a special grinding jig or fixture to get a decent pull weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 some guys have used this kit from Brazos with great results. http://www.1911store.com/tunedtriggergroupbcg-proseries.aspx disassembly of a 2011/1911 can be tricky. there are articles on the Brazos website for this. If you can afford to send your gun to a reputable smith who will back up his work then that is another option. Trigger work will run about $150 before shipping to/from the smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APL-G35 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's perfect. Thanks for the link. I guess I should've checked out his site better considering that's where I bought my mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Cylinder & Slide 1911 triggered kits are really good also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 When using a kit, does anybody know if the safety needs to be refitted to the new sear? Or are sear dimensions generally the same such that if the safety worked correctly with the old sear, it should work just find with the drop in replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 When using a kit, does anybody know if the safety needs to be refitted to the new sear? Or are sear dimensions generally the same such that if the safety worked correctly with the old sear, it should work just find with the drop in replacement? Maybe... probably not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The safety may or may not need work it all depends. Your drop in stuff will not be as good as a fit set as they have to allow tolerence in the dropin for different guns. If your not really familiar with how to setup a trigger job or what to look for for safety, its best to send it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Try the EGW ULTIMATE TRIGGER KIT. You will not be disappointed. The best value on the market. With optional Doug Koenig hammer or EGW. http://www.egwguns.com/ignition-parts/ultimate-trigger-kit/ Thanks, Robby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Try the EGW ULTIMATE TRIGGER KIT. You will not be disappointed. The best value on the market. With optional Doug Koenig hammer or EGW. http://www.egwguns.com/ignition-parts/ultimate-trigger-kit/ Thanks, Robby One of your nine sponsors Robby? ahem. Yes the EGW kit is good, but the sears are NOT drop in. They only have primary angle cut, no secondary. The ball type disconnect may need to be fitted to the disconnect hole in the frame. I've had all but one, not even come close to fitting in the hole. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT of that disconnector. To be fitted to the frame hole. The sear spring is a good one, but if installed as it ships it will not deliver a 2# trigger. To the OP, a 2# drop in trigger does not exist. You will need to work it to achieve that. Even then, there is no gaurantee that it will function properly. If you change to an EGW hammer, be prepared to change the thumb safety. The EGW hammers are excellent and I use them, but they have a slightly different geometry (which is why they are good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunshineST Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I think the real message here is, if you want a 2# trigger, there are a few great options for hammer / sear / disconnect packages, but you absolutely will need a quality gunsmith to do the work...even someone with years of platform experience would take this to a 'smith, due to the necessary adjustments and fitting required. It's likely on top of a new thumb safety that the grip safety will need worked on, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Try the EGW ULTIMATE TRIGGER KIT. You will not be disappointed. The best value on the market. With optional Doug Koenig hammer or EGW. http://www.egwguns.com/ignition-parts/ultimate-trigger-kit/ Thanks, Robby One of your nine sponsors Robby? ahem. Yes the EGW kit is good, but the sears are NOT drop in. They only have primary angle cut, no secondary. The ball type disconnect may need to be fitted to the disconnect hole in the frame. I've had all but one, not even come close to fitting in the hole. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT of that disconnector. To be fitted to the frame hole. The sear spring is a good one, but if installed as it ships it will not deliver a 2# trigger. To the OP, a 2# drop in trigger does not exist. You will need to work it to achieve that. Even then, there is no gaurantee that it will function properly. If you change to an EGW hammer, be prepared to change the thumb safety. The EGW hammers are excellent and I use them, but they have a slightly different geometry (which is why they are good). Oh don't you know it ;O) EGW happens to be one of my sponsors. Jim Macort is my guy over there. If you have any questions concerning ease of installation give them a call. Shawn is correct. You should always have a competent gunsmith installing your components... period! The dis-connector does need to be fit, like Shawn says that is the point. But from my experience it can be done with ease. The EGW kit in my opinion is one of the best values on the market. George and Jim are excellent people to deal with and they make an excellent product. 2lbs and under is very achievable. And if you're looking for an excellent gunsmith who does great trigger jobs for about 70 bucks contact Gary at Gans Guns. And no Gary does not sponsor me. ;O) Edited January 24, 2012 by PINMAN44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I like their stuff in general. I recomend the kit to anyone interested, unless it's a 2011. I use EE (C&S) kits for 2011's, just my preference. The EGW HD hammer is awesome though. Since it's just the secondary angle that needs done, youtube it. You can see how to do with just a stone, no jig. A little tweaky-tweak on the spring, spit and polish and test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichvegas Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Try the EGW ULTIMATE TRIGGER KIT. You will not be disappointed. The best value on the market. With optional Doug Koenig hammer or EGW. Thanks, Robby One of your nine sponsors Robby? ahem. Yes the EGW kit is good, but the sears are NOT drop in. They only have primary angle cut, no secondary. The ball type disconnect may need to be fitted to the disconnect hole in the frame. I've had all but one, not even come close to fitting in the hole. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT of that disconnector. To be fitted to the frame hole. The sear spring is a good one, but if installed as it ships it will not deliver a 2# trigger. To the OP, a 2# drop in trigger does not exist. You will need to work it to achieve that. Even then, there is no gaurantee that it will function properly. If you change to an EGW hammer, be prepared to change the thumb safety. The EGW hammers are excellent and I use them, but they have a slightly different geometry (which is why they are good). Those EGW triggers must be very tedious to install. My 1911 and EGW kit have been with my favorite local gunsmith for several days now awaiting it's new trigger. Edited January 24, 2012 by Nichvegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Like my smith said, there is no such thing as a drop in trigger for a 1911. Sure it CAN drop right in and work but a smith can make it better. There is just to many variances between frames and parts out there. Get good parts, find a good 1911 smith, and let the trigger be what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichvegas Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Like my smith said, there is no such thing as a drop in trigger for a 1911. Sure it CAN drop right in and work but a smith can make it better. There is just to many variances between frames and parts out there. Get good parts, find a good 1911 smith, and let the trigger be what you want. So is the local smith still distracted by filing down a CZ or can he move on to important things like my gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 EGW is great for any 1911 or 2011 platform. In the end everything comes down to personal preference. Find a capable smith who does terrific work and go from there. Both the DOUG KOENIG hammer EGW makes or EGW's own HD hammer are terrific. Thanks, Robby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyglock Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I have the brazos kit in two of my guns. One is 2lbs the other 1 1/2lbs. the first one I installed has almost 30,000rnd through it. I did have to refit the thumb safety to the sear. They both break like glass with no creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Like my smith said, there is no such thing as a drop in trigger for a 1911. Sure it CAN drop right in and work but a smith can make it better. There is just to many variances between frames and parts out there. Get good parts, find a good 1911 smith, and let the trigger be what you want. So is the local smith still distracted by filing down a CZ or can he move on to important things like my gun? Lol, I resemble that remark. Yes, now that the sleazy is pretty I, he... He can work on yours! ETA: ees dun. Edited January 25, 2012 by want2race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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