ffgats Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 HELLO, I am just curious about this powder, tried this powder with my super and 40 open guns, I want to try this to my 9mm major, I heard that its difficult to make major with 105, can anybody pls give an idea on how much "grain" of this powder can a 9mm case take, Right now I am using 9.6GR. of HS7, and the best so far for my gun, unfortunately I got only 20 lbs left. looking at the burning chart of vhitavouri manual, these 2 powders has a comparable burning rate. so your feed back and experience is very much welcome , thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 20lbs left? You should be set for a while. I don't think you are gonna be able to get enough 105 in the 9mm case to make major. I run 10.5 of 105 in 38super, with a 115 bullet, and that almost spills out the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user293 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Maybe if the gun has smaller comp ports, 5.5 bbl, and 124 gr. Bullet or heavier, then its maybe possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Yeah, never tried it but I remember somebody saying something about 105 in 9Major won't fit. If you want VV, then you'll have to look at 3n37 and 3n38 but those are really full also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 so 10grain of 105 will fit in a 9mm case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 10.5 of 105 is about 1/16" from spilling out of the case. Give me a couple of hours and i'll take some pics of super &9 with 10 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) using 10.0 grains of N105 in .38SC so I'm curious to see what 10 grains in a 9 case looks like. love this powder but its so damn expensive. Edited November 20, 2011 by blaster113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Well, here it is. On the left is a standard 9mm Luger case...On the right is a standard 38 Super case (NOT Super Comp!). As you can see, 10.0 grains of VV N105 fills the case completely on the 9mm, and almost to the top in the 38S. Bear in mind, I load 10.5 in the super..... The pic doesn't really do it justice...The powder in the 9mm case is actually slightly above the mouth, like an upside ice cream cone....MMMM! Ice Cream! Edited November 20, 2011 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Unless you're shooting a pistol with a bunch of big bbl holes, its not too hard to make major with n105 in 9 major. 9.6 grains of n105 with WSR primers, zero 125 grain bullet, at 1.19" OAL: 168.6 PF out of a Brazos ProSX shorty with 4 small bbl/poppleholes. 171.5 PF out of a Brazos full size with 4 small bbl/poppleholes. 172.5 PF out of a MC full size with no holes. Loading is a pain in the butt as you'll have to go very slow to keep powder from slinging out of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 Well, here it is. On the left is a standard 9mm Luger case...On the right is a standard 38 Super case (NOT Super Comp!). As you can see, 10.0 grains of VV N105 fills the case completely on the 9mm, and almost to the top in the 38S. Bear in mind, I load 10.5 in the super..... The pic doesn't really do it justice...The powder in the 9mm case is actually slightly above the mouth, like an upside ice cream cone....MMMM! Ice Cream! grumpy, looks like you still have a room for the bullet, my 7.4 of n350 and 8.8gr of 3n38 looks identical of your 9mm pics, unless these old eyes are doing some tricks, thanks for the pics, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Well, here it is. On the left is a standard 9mm Luger case...On the right is a standard 38 Super case (NOT Super Comp!). As you can see, 10.0 grains of VV N105 fills the case completely on the 9mm, and almost to the top in the 38S. Bear in mind, I load 10.5 in the super..... The pic doesn't really do it justice...The powder in the 9mm case is actually slightly above the mouth, like an upside ice cream cone....MMMM! Ice Cream! grumpy, looks like you still have a room for the bullet, my 7.4 of n350 and 8.8gr of 3n38 looks identical of your 9mm pics, unless these old eyes are doing some tricks, thanks for the pics, I don't load Mj 9.... And yes, there might be room for the bullet, but it would be extremely compressed, and it might bulge the the case. The powder is actually flush with the mouth of the case. I shoot the super.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I loooking for 165pf(ipsc), maybe will start at 9.0grs.- 9.4. the bbl is a 5" with one hole. hope this load will give me more space for the bullets, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I loooking for 165pf(ipsc), maybe will start at 9.0grs.- 9.4. the bbl is a 5" with one hole. hope this load will give me more space for the bullets, The ugly twin to N105 will work in 9 major. AA#7, 10gr w/125gr produces about 172pf set it 1.180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Well, here it is. On the left is a standard 9mm Luger case...On the right is a standard 38 Super case (NOT Super Comp!). As you can see, 10.0 grains of VV N105 fills the case completely on the 9mm, and almost to the top in the 38S. Bear in mind, I load 10.5 in the super..... The pic doesn't really do it justice...The powder in the 9mm case is actually slightly above the mouth, like an upside ice cream cone....MMMM! Ice Cream! wow! I occasionally will sling out some powder while loading .38SC; definetely have to go slow while loading 9major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Unless you're shooting a pistol with a bunch of big bbl holes, its not too hard to make major with n105 in 9 major. 9.6 grains of n105 with WSR primers, zero 125 grain bullet, at 1.19" OAL: 168.6 PF out of a Brazos ProSX shorty with 4 small bbl/poppleholes. 171.5 PF out of a Brazos full size with 4 small bbl/poppleholes. 172.5 PF out of a MC full size with no holes. Loading is a pain in the butt as you'll have to go very slow to keep powder from slinging out of the case. al503, how does the case looks with 9.6gr, as mentioned earlier, I shooting for 160pf, maybe 9.0-9.4grs? any room for bullets with this load, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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