fastarget Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Looking for 2 lowers to build on, and noticed the firebird lowers at shooters connection. You read different brands mostly billets have "flared magwells", I was curious whether the firebird lowers had that feature, and how well mags load and drop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The Firebird lowers that Shooter's Connection has are forged, not billet. They are not flared in the competition sense. I think they are just chamfered as most forged lowers are. They do have tapped holes to allow for removing play from the upper and lower and another to adjust for trigger engagement on stock internals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 so the chamfered magwell is what would be considered milspec? How much more flaring do billet lowers have? How much of an advantage is that if any in competition, is it worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Some of the billet lowers have huge magwells. Much faster. That said there are compromises. Some of them don't work with coupled magazines, none of them will work with the Arredondo bolt on mag well an frankly, who reloads an AR anymore? There are some empty gun starts that it would be helpful with though. I love the Firebird lowers. Ordered 150 when Jim started making them. Have about 10 left. I've probably built 30 or so. Never a problem. Pins are placed properly, machining is top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Some of the billet lowers have huge magwells. Much faster. That said there are compromises. Some of them don't work with coupled magazines, none of them will work with the Arredondo bolt on mag well an frankly, who reloads an AR anymore? There are some empty gun starts that it would be helpful with though. I love the Firebird lowers. Ordered 150 when Jim started making them. Have about 10 left. I've probably built 30 or so. Never a problem. Pins are placed properly, machining is top notch. good to know quality, I prefer to buy from local shooter types. Well, up and coming tons of DMG idpa 3 gun matches in our area (3 clubs withing 45 min), since I was planning on building a couple of new platforms, I thought I would inquire first and see if there are significant advantages to the flared magwells. In IDPA, reloading is a must, mags at 10 rnds or so If I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterready Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 You'll be required to reload if there are 15 or more rounds fired. Coupled mags are the way to go in IDPA MG. Stick with the standard magwell, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 did not know IDPA allows coupled mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Looking for 2 lowers to build on, and noticed the firebird lowers at shooters connection. You read different brands mostly billets have "flared magwells", I was curious whether the firebird lowers had that feature, and how well mags load and drop out. Flared magwells are almost useless now that we have the Nordic Components 48 round mags and now the Surfire 60 and 100 round mags. I can't remember that last time i did a mag change on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The surefire mags won't work with the noveske lower. Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 My Surefire works just fine with my Noveske lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 My Surefire works just fine with my Noveske lower The second gen noveske flared magwell? Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 so the chamfered magwell is what would be considered milspec? How much more flaring do billet lowers have? How much of an advantage is that if any in competition, is it worth it? Firebird forged and billet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 nice , but I do not believe the billets are available, hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 nice , but I do not believe the billets are available, hope I am wrong. Jim talks about a possibility of another run of billet sets, but, his involvement with the Akdal shotgun has his focus right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) You'll be required to reload if there are 15 or more rounds fired. Coupled mags are the way to go in IDPA MG. Stick with the standard magwell, IMO. IDPA rules suck. IMO. Why bother. Edited November 20, 2011 by tnek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 kind of off subject, but idpa is just another game to enjoy, trigger time..............I would prefer to stay on subject. tx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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