czambesi Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I am shooting .40 S&W in limited. I know I need to maintain at least a 165 PF for major in limited USPSA. From looking at charts a 165 or a 185 can make it. I see alot or people stating 185 grain is what they use. Is this because a heavier bullet comes out slower so there is less snap? Thanks, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleA Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Generally, the heavier the bullet the less felt recoil for the same power factor. Some people prefer it to be a bit snappier, but that is also something you can tune by using different powders. There are people that are using 200 grn in .40 now too, but I'm kinda afraid of that because it puts a lot of stress on the brass and I like to reuse my brass many many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I tried the 200s and they weren't any softer for me than the 180s, so I use 180s. I've yet to try a snappier load, but some swear they can shoot faster with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ofishl1 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I am shooting .40 S&W in limited. I know I need to maintain at least a 165 PF for major in limited USPSA. From looking at charts a 165 or a 185 can make it. I see alot or people stating 185 grain is what they use. Is this because a heavier bullet comes out slower so there is less snap? Thanks, Chris I am shooting zero 180's in 40, I have tried 200 but did not see the difference, now when I changed the OAL on my 180's I did notice due to pressure rise what I percieved as more "snap" at the SAMMI spec, but I load much longer now as instructed by top loaders and shooters for my STI, recoil is fine and runs great. Maybe this will help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azsureshot Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm a small female and prefer a softer recoil. The 180's work just fine for me. The gun cycles fast enough but the recoil is quite manageable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spideysteve Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) 200 gr frontier ... Loaded light, but heavy enough to make major and low felt recoil ... Try it with a faster powder ... I use VV N320 Edited October 24, 2011 by spideysteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Pet load Mg jhp 180 vv n320 5 gr oal 1.165 gives me a pf of 169 out of my svi 5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaddog77 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I too like 180gr bullets. I've tried the 165 and in my g35 it was snappy. Personal the 200gr is best for my 10mm loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I know everyone have preferences on bullets also, what is everyone using? I heave heard alot about Sierra. Does anyone use another company? Thanks, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I know everyone have preferences on bullets also, what is everyone using? I heave heard alot about Sierra. Does anyone use another company? Thanks, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I use montana gold 180 grain fmj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Thanks. Did you try a few hundred of each type and choose from there or if have you always used them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ive tried some unknown brand fmj i got from a local gun store, these were not as consistant in weight as the montana golds. The price and availability of montana gold is what sold me on them and they work well for me in my glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 thank you for the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGabe Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I started with 180's when I took this up a year and a half ago and haven't found any reason to change. I Use either the Montana Gold or Precision Delta. Both shoot the same for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Thanks Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunfixer Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I've only recently started reloading w/ my new XL650, but I have always preferred the factory 180's and now am loading the 180gr. "Pulled" bullets often mentioned on the board here.. I am loading mine @ 1.185 & 4.6gr. (Last time w/ a friends chrono anyway) of VV N320 & a .421 crimp... (Lol..! I had a REAL heavy crimp; smaller than the bullet dia.! last time we went, so I've not changed my charge yet...) 'Basically the same FPS, etc.. out of both my STI Edge & Trojan... I will use up the rest of these bullets then am going to go to Montana Golds for certain.! I liked the idea of these pulled 180's, but many are dinked and mushed on the flat nose which is a real P.I.T.A. for trying to remain consistent on any level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Thanks Gunfixer. I want to be consistant after I find the right bullet and formula. Right now with the cheap over the counter it is not consistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Fixer- how do you like your Edge and Trojan? I was looking at those but I am also looking at a custom built one also. Are your's straight from factory STI or are they Tuned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 reloading in general, is how much you are willing to spend and how much are you shooting. You will NEVER spend less, you can just shoot more with your money. for 40 S&W, top end bullets, most use Montana Gold. Pulled bullets are great alternative and available at one of our Benos vendors, Power Factor Shooting. If you shoot for quantity, you can go cast, molly, or plated. I use these JD cast. Accurate and cheap! Now, for powders, again, clean burning consistent PF, alot uses N320. Not always available locally though and it is more expensive. I have used HP-38 (Hodgdon) or Winchester 231. Cheaper, soft and clean burning powder. Consistent too, in PF and metering (when loading). What type of gun are you using it with? I have tried 200gr and 180gr. I sticked with 180gr, felt recoil is almost identical, its cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunfixer Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Fixer- how do you like your Edge and Trojan? I was looking at those but I am also looking at a custom built one also. Are your's straight from factory STI or are they Tuned? Mine were both factory direct guns, but both have been "Spruced" here and there.. I had a few hiccups right after my Edge came back from Hard Chroming due to the firing pin port in the firing pin retainer not having been "Chased Out" after chrome... A firing pin that moves freely IS a GOOD thing..! Lol.! The Trojan (Factory HC..) is in progress; I'm running Tripp "Corey" mags (10rnd., .10mm w/ hybrid followers) but need to weld & re-cut my feed ramp to bring it "Aft" a hair... My last Trojan (9mm HC) needed the ramp eased forward a smidge then it ran like a scalded cat.. (Pics of both the new .40 and my old 9mm are posted here on the forum) I could have bought parts & built my gun, but this is far less hassle for me and I am absolutely PRO STI in general. Good luck w/ it.. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Torogi- I use a M&P pro .40 right now in limited. Getting a XDm 5.25 for production and looking at a 1911 type for limited and one for SS. I will be shooting a lot. The more I shoot the better I'll get. Plus it will help the costs. A friend gave me a Rock Chucker supreme kit that I am going to use for bolt action. I am investing in a Dillon 650 for 9mm, .40, .45, and .223. I am trying to finish senting up my reloading bench. Gunfixer- I will not build it myself, I am too inexpirenced. I will be buying from a gunsmith that builds them. Which USPSA club do you shoot at? Thanks, Chris Edited December 29, 2011 by czambesi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunfixer Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'd build one if I weren't so freakin' pooped out after my full time job and side work at my shop.. IMHO and as I have been doing, these are absolutely great guns in need of minor tweeking occasionally to get superb results, as good as custom built which also will likely take some tweeking regardless the $$ and time spent.. So.. I saved time, $$, my patience & sanity.. And best of all, I have Top Grade guns that I am very very happy with.. If you have the bucks and want custom, that is a great way to go of course..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 9mm, 40S&W and .223 has one thing in common. Small primers. I dont like changing priming system, its not that its PITA, i just never did it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czambesi Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 Never thought about that before Torogi. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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