lsr1238 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Tried the search function for an answer but I couldn't find anything. Here's my predicament: I bought a Ready Tactical DOH holster from CPWSA (great holster & retailer BTW) for my Glock 17 which I use in Production and Steel, only used once at a match. Recently came across a great deal for a Glock 34 I couldn't pass up. Now I want to use my Ready Tactical DOH holster meant for the Glock 17 for my Glock 34. The front end protrudes about 1". Is it legal to use for USPSA Production? This is from USPSA's 2010 Handgun Rules regarding Production holsters: •Suitable for everyday use. “Race gun” type holster prohibited. •May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and must cover the slide up to, ½” below the ejection port (belt slide “Yaqui” type holster exempt). •Revolver holsters open no lower than halfway down the cylinder. Thanks for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Yes. Go shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-charlie Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 100% legal. Have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 The way I read the rule, the only requirement for covering the slide is that it must cover the slide up to 1/2" of the ejection port. This means that it really only has to be about 1" deep, and the rest of the slide can stick out the bottom. The reason behind this rule is that everyone has to draw the pistol the same height to clear the holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 no different than a belt slide holster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsr1238 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Update, I emailed USPSA and John Amidon replied saying it's not legal for Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Update, I emailed USPSA and John Amidon replied saying it's not legal for Production. Your G17 Ready Tactical holster is legal even if your G34 protrudes an inch through the bottom of the holster. Amidon may not have fully understood your questions (Lord knows he's getting old). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsr1238 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I sent him a pic with my G34 in the holster and he says it doesn't satisfy the second rule posted above "May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and must cover the slide up to, ½” below the ejection port (belt slide “Yaqui” type holster exempt)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 That sounds like a pretty silly interpretation but I've come to expect that. The cover the slide up to the ejection port is so it's not too low AT the ejection port for faster draws. The muzzle sticking out of the bottom of the holster has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 If Yaqui slide holsters are exempt then why is this any different (except that it covers more of the slide). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 OP, How about posting the pic you sent Amidon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I REALLY wish people would just quit talking to Amidon. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I REALLY wish people would just quit talking to Amidon. At all. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 That ruling doesn't seem to make that much sense but I can't imagine anyone in a local match would have a problem with it. But from a practical point of view, do you really want a holster than leaves your front sight uncovered? I'll bet you could get a replacement from Chris and sell that one here for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I sent him a pic with my G34 in the holster and he says it doesn't satisfy the second rule posted above "May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and must cover the slide up to, ½” below the ejection port (belt slide “Yaqui” type holster exempt)" In that case, it sounds to me like you may have the Blade Tech DOH "Black Ice". It's a very similar holster to the "standard" DOH but the cut at the ejection port does not satisfy the rule he mentioned above. The standard DOH does and it is therefore Production legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsr1238 Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) I attached the pic, it's a crappy pic but all I have is a camera on my phone. It's a Ready Tactical DOH not a Bladetech Black Ice Trust me, I really wish I knew not to ask Amidon but I asked the general USPSA contact email and he answered. I told him that why isn't it considered as a belt slide holster and he said that it doesn't look anything like a Yaqui slide holster. Sometimes I wish I kept my mouth shout but just didn't want to be turned away at a match because of this. Edited September 23, 2011 by lsr1238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's a Ready Tactical DOH not a Bladetech Black Ice I see absolutely no reason why that holster would not be Production legal. Amidon is wrong (and this wouldn't be his first time either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I can see why. The rule says "cover the slide up to..." which would mean to the end of the muzzle. That said, it's an illogical interpretation based on the Yaqui exemption. Furthermore, the rule is, IMO, written to prevent the holster being cut too short at the top, not the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I can see why. The rule says "cover the slide up to..." which would mean to the end of the muzzle. That said, it's an illogical interpretation based on the Yaqui exemption. Furthermore, the rule is, IMO, written to prevent the holster being cut too short at the top, not the bottom. I agree with you. If this is the way that this rule is being interpreted, it falls in the same category of the "magazines in the front pocket" discussion where we are reading too far into the rule. If that holster is legal in Production to carry a G17, it should also be legal for a G34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsr1238 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Who in the USPSA organization can I talk/email to address the interpretation of this rule? They changed the interpretation of the mag in the front pocket rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Who in the USPSA organization can I talk/email to address the interpretation of this rule? They changed the interpretation of the mag in the front pocket rule. Before you do anything, understand that Amidon's opinion is not law. I highly doubt that anyone at a major match is going to call you on it. So, I wouldn't worry about it, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Who in the USPSA organization can I talk/email to address the interpretation of this rule? They changed the interpretation of the mag in the front pocket rule. Before you do anything, understand that Amidon's opinion is not law. I highly doubt that anyone at a major match is going to call you on it. So, I wouldn't worry about it, but that's just me. I'd be inclined to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 No need for a rule change. You got one person's opinion, and most don't agree with that opinion. If anybody thought a slide sticking down out of a "general" model holster was an issue...it would be common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Who in the USPSA organization can I talk/email to address the interpretation of this rule? They changed the interpretation of the mag in the front pocket rule. Before you do anything, understand that Amidon's opinion is not law. I highly doubt that anyone at a major match is going to call you on it. So, I wouldn't worry about it, but that's just me. I'd be inclined to agree. +1 You have "more" of the gun to remove from the holster (G17 vs. G34). By shooting a G34, your draw is actually "harder". If you are really worried about it, heat, bend, and glue a small piece of plastic to the bottom of the holster. There are a lot of guys on this board that play with Kydex. Have one of them mail you a piece or two of scrap and make the holster "legal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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