Vermilion Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Will be hopefully picking up a new DPMS 3G1 very very soon and while I plan to run an Aimpoint CompML2 I would like to get a set of back up irons. The front will have to go on a gas block and the rear I guess doesn't matter. I'd like to get the same company if possible with the same style flip up and down activation. Also I'd prefer if the gas block front sight folded to where it wouldn't get hung or caught on any part of a stage or whatnot. Any suggestions? Or save the money and buy more ammo? Edited September 15, 2011 by Vermilion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerdawg Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Will be hopefully picking up a new DPMS 3G1 very very soon and while I plan to run an Aimpoint CompML2 I would like to get a set of back up irons. The front will have to go on a gas block and the rear I guess doesn't matter. I'd like to get the same company if possible with the same style flip up and down activation. Also I'd prefer if the gas block front sight folded to where it wouldn't get hung or caught on any part of a stage or whatnot. Any suggestions? Or save the money and buy more ammo? I just used one from Yankee Hill Machine that clamped on. The price was reasonable and it appears to be very solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=VILLAMOR=- Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 There are plenty of quality manufacturers to choose from...Yankee Hill, GG&G, and Troy Industries are my preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike P Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Have a look at the Samson flip sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain C. Baer Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Also, take a look at the LaRue flip-up rear battle sight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 If you are resorting to BUIS in a 3 match, you've already lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermilion Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 If you are resorting to BUIS in a 3 match, you've already lost. Yeah I was thinking about this as well. Might just save the 175+ dollars I'd spend on some back up sights and put it towards a Burris TAC30 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Yeah I was thinking about this as well. Might just save the 175+ dollars I'd spend on some back up sights and put it towards a Burris TAC30 or something. That would be a retrograde step in my view. The Aimpoint will be infinitely more robust than any magnified optic. You would be best served by an ML3 with 2MOA dot. This sight is so robust that you can dispense with BUIS. As well as costing $$$, the rear BUIS would limit how close you can get your eye to the Aimpoint (which limits field of view). For 3-gun I recommend an ML3 mounted as far back as possible, and forget the BUIS. Now, if you are talking about a gun that could be used for personal defense, then a BUIS is cheap insurance. Here are my rifles. Top is a medium-weight 18" rifle gas gun primarily intended for 3-gun, bottom is a light-weight 16" midlength gas gun primarily intended for self-defense and secondarily a 3-gun backup: Edited September 15, 2011 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I agree that the 2MOA dot will be a better choice than the 4MOA dot on the ML2. I would sell the ML2 and buy an Aimpoint PRO for $400. Cheaper than the ML3 and comes with a useable mount as well as having the 2MOA dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good luck hitting 6in plates at 300+ yards with a 2moa on a non magnified optic. I would go with a 1-4x. that is just my humble opinion, and i am not that good so take it for what its worth. It is just easier for me personally with my burris. I have used 1x in competition and didn't like it. couldn't hit anything past 100 yards with speed and confidence. Everyone is different so try out some other setups and see what you like. Whatever you choose make sure to have fun and get out there and shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good luck hitting 6in plates at 300+ yards with a 2moa on a non magnified optic. Grrrrr. That right there is everythingthat is wrong with the closed minded thinking of the Tac Scope crowd. Targets should not ever be smaller than 4MOA at distance. At 300 the smallest plate should be 12". No wonder so many newbies feel like they can't participate until they spend a small fortune on the latest and greatest optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 If you want a set of sights so you can shoot Irons, I have a set of YHM like you are looking for and that I'm not using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krdshrk Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I got a Midwest Industries front flip sight on my AR. http://www.skdtac.com/Midwest_Industries_Flip_Up_Front_Sight_p/mid.101.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good luck hitting 6in plates at 300+ yards with a 2moa on a non magnified optic. Grrrrr. That right there is everythingthat is wrong with the closed minded thinking of the Tac Scope crowd. Targets should not ever be smaller than 4MOA at distance. At 300 the smallest plate should be 12". No wonder so many newbies feel like they can't participate until they spend a small fortune on the latest and greatest optic. Its purely up to the shooter what he wants to do. All I am saying is what works for ME. I know other people(Kurt Miller) can out shoot me with iron sights. I do better with a magnified scope. BTW i have less $ in my tac30 than an aimpoint costs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermilion Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 What kind of mount do you use with the TAC30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 You can get away with a Larue SPR if you push the scope all the way forward. if buying new, go with the Larue SPR-E for extra eye relief in case you need it. Mick What kind of mount do you use with the TAC30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I have the PEEPR mount. I think we've gotten off track, what division does he want to shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermilion Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 I don't even know to be honest. Whatever I can have fun at. Not a super competitive kind of person. I've got a CZ TS in 9mm, a Remington 1100 Tactical and soon the DPMS 3G1. If I have to shoot Open to use a scope that is fine as long as I can have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I shoot in tac optics. Your allowed one scope on rifle. I also have a flock and fn slp. You should only be open if optic on pistol or shotgun. You can possibly be put in open with BUIS and an optic. Not sure about that but USPSA multi gun rules state only one sighting system except open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermilion Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 Alrighty, guess I would be tac optics then, I plan on irons with pistol and shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Where do you shoot mostly? Outlaw? USPSA? All rules are different. Some matches I can use my 11+1 tube on shotgun some I can't. What do you want to shoot is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermilion Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 I want to shoot 3Gun in Birmingham, AL. As far as I know its USPSA. My CZTS in 9mm holds 20rounds in a mag, my Remington 1100 Tactical is stock, and the DPMS 3G1 has a 18" barrel, miculek comp, and possible the TAC30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Like I said earlier, it's not what you shoot, it's that you shoot. I'm still in my infancy as far as shooting goes. I however believe in having good equipment. The last thing I want is equipment hendring my advancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Come see me in November. I'll be at at east Alabama gun club. You can check all of our equipment then you can decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBdocholiday Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Sorry, I need to verify it might be in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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