GForceLizard Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 As I understand the IDPA rules the only time you have to use tactical sequence is when the course of fire says to use tactical sequence. i.e. Tac-Seq is never a given. Tac-Seq must be specified in the written procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor_R Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Correct. If it's not stated in the COF then it's Tactical Priority. I don't think I've ever seen a COF not specify Tactical sequence or Tactical Priority before shooting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Like VR said: Default even if not stated - Tactical Priority Only when stated - Tacitcal Sequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 How about a procedure that says, "Both Tactical Priority and Tactical Sequence"? And no, I'm not kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 How about a procedure that says, "Both Tactical Priority and Tactical Sequence"? And no, I'm not kidding. That used to be legal but as of the addendum it is not. Under the current rules tac sequence can only be used if the targets are all equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) As I understand the IDPA rules the only time you have to use tactical sequence is when the course of fire says to use tactical sequence. i.e. Tac-Seq is never a given. Tac-Seq must be specified in the written procedure. ...and they have to been of equal threat and 10 yards or less distance from the shooter. The implication is that a tactical sequence engagement will most likely be at the beginning of a stage in the open before moving to cover. Tactical Sequence may not be used for targets farther than 10 yards. Tactical Sequence may not be combined with Tactical Priority (near to far or from cover) on the same targets. As stated on page 12, tactical sequence is only required when it is specified in the course of fire description. Edited January 27, 2011 by Steve J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Perhaps IDPA HQ has realized the tactical sequence is really not that great an idea. For one thing, people tend to find it confusing. Frankly I think that HQ made a mistake in the Rule Book by giving the two concepts such similar names: tactical sequence and tactical priority. People, especially new IDPA shooters, find it hard to keep straight which is which, and when each should be used. I feel that in the rules addendum they are, basically, moving to obsolete tactical sequence without actually saying that's what they're doing. Just my $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I liked using tac sequence in stages for our weekly wednesday matches, not every week but every once in a while. Put out 6 targets at varying distances from 3-10 yards and shoot them in tac sequence. Good transition stuff and good to get them to think the best way to reengage them. Put 2 NT's or a swinger NT in there and it is was a good practice stage. I think it has it's place in the IDPA game but I do agree I have seen it used in some bizarre ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Frankly I think that HQ made a mistake in the Rule Book by giving the two concepts such similar names: tactical sequence and tactical priority. People, especially new IDPA shooters, find it hard to keep straight which is which, IDPA jargon seems to be beyond a lot of IDPA shooters and not just new ones. Every walkthrough, Tactical Priority has to be explained as "slice the pie" or "near to far" and Tactical Sequence as "1-1-2-1-1." Every time. Stages are not scored Vickers Count, they are "not limited." Every time. I often threaten to have a vocabulary quiz in new shooter briefings. But don't because so few would pass, new or old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I remember it because "priority" and "pieing", and "sequence" and "single" (i.e. "fire a single shot to start") start with the same letters. Still too similar in the terminology though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Duane, I like IDPA, but don't have a good place to shoot it nearby. I've had heck remembering the difference between the two. Your memory trick is going to help me. Thank you!!! (Tac Sequence has cost me plenty of match points) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I'm all for a re-tooling of the IDPA jargon. It is pretty cumbersome. We should write a letter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Oooh, oooh, Let's propose Duane's "Tactical PIE-ority" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Duane, I like IDPA, but don't have a good place to shoot it nearby. I've had heck remembering the difference between the two. Your memory trick is going to help me. Thank you!!! Yer welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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