spd522 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 This is probably a question for the 3GN folks but if anyone else knows, please chime in. Since there is only Tac-Ops and Open in the pro-division, can we shoot for 3GN points in Limited, HM, or HvyOPS if we use the proper equipment in the tactical optics or open division? Or will this be a match with no Limited/HM/HO points awarded? One of the changes this year was to not have the points division specific, so (afaik) you can shoot the matches in any divisions and your scores will be tallied up no matter what division they were from. My understanding of the points system is that you get points for whatever percentage you finish in your division. Since there are no divisions at this match, if you chose to shoot HM or TI you are going to get whatever percentage you get based upon all the participants. It could be seen as a real disadvantage to shoot anything but TO at this match. I plan on shooting irons anyway. My biggest disadvantage is my lack of talent, not my equipment. If that's true - then that just makes up for all the times they get the prize table advantage for shooting Heavy in other matches. I have never noticed a prize table advantage to shooting HM when I shoot it. Generally the table is stacked according to participation and HM is often the smallest. Most HM shooters do it for the fun, not the prize table. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 More match sponsors still coming in; EGW and Otis confirmed today, be sure and support those supporting your sport and events Thanks Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) Match and prize table coninue to build momentum, Alexander Arms and Colt are now GOLD sponsors. Winners are going to have a hard time deciding what pick up off the prize tables; ACR, LOKI 223, Alexander Arms Grendel or 50 Beowulf, Neil Wiggans or Freedom Gun Works custom STI 9mm, Seekings Precision Custom AR, CMMG, Bushmaster, Remington or DPMS rifles or tons of stuff from AR15.com, Brownells or Hornady and all the other great sponsors, I may try to publish a list before the match so everyone can get an idea of what to be looking for. Thanks to all the sponsors and shooters for turning out to help make this come together JC Edited May 26, 2011 by benelli2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Match and prize table coninue to build momentum, Alexander Arms and Colt are now GOLD sponsors. Winners are going to have a hard time deciding what pick up off the prize tables; ACR, LOKI 223, Alexander Arms Grendel or 50 Beowulf, Neil Wiggans or Freedom Gun Works custom STI 9mm, Seekings Precision Custom AR, CMMG, Bushmaster, Remington or DPMS rifles or tons of stuff from AR15.com, Brownells or Hornady and all the other great sponsors, I may try to publish a list before the match so everyone can get an idea of what to be looking for. Thanks to all the sponsors and shooters for turning out to help make this come together JC All those guns on the Pro side or are a few of them being put in the random draw for the AM side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Prizes will be distributed between Pro and Am tables as equitably as I possibly can based on participation/ percentages, so yes guns on all tables, as there are more Pro's expect to see more there but I do not expect anyone on the AM side to walk away disappointed at this match, my/ our goal is to provide great "shooter value", great opportunity for sponsors and a weekend unlike any other!! jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) and a weekend unlike any other!! jc Just add a safety briefing in the morning... Edited May 26, 2011 by jtischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 woohoo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueddy Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 thats looking awesome!!!! Wow really cant wait for this match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Stages are posted on the match website http://rockcastle3-gunproam.com/Stages.html Target count is AM Pistol 49, Rifle 49, Shotgun 48 PRO Pistol 56, Rifle 60, Shotgun 65, that is targets not rounds unless you choose to shoot one A and hit every piece of steel on the first shot, I think someone should take that challange, Kelly N I think you should try that! I would say round count at 2 hits on each paper and a few extra shots at steel targets puts this at about 300-350 rounds total for the match. So average 325 shots, with 500 shooters that comes out to 162,500 rounds in two and a half days and then the side matches and such, that's a lot of fun in one weekend Now I'm down to "build it and they will come", I gotta get some of the props out of my garage and up to Rockcastle, then I can make more Later Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seekins Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Man I can't wait!!!! You will see a Seekins precision gun on both prize tables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) Yes you will and I know that will make for two very happy competitors, and captured your banner in the AM stage 3 posted online as well Thanks for being a sponsor and welcome to the fun jc Edited June 1, 2011 by benelli2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjimmy57 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 For hauling ourselves and gear would it be ok to bring a ATV and a small trailer? I can't wait to check out the stages when I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterready Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Jeff, What is the max distance for PRO rifle flashers? Also, looks like all birdshot? No slugs or buck? This looks like an awesome match. This will be my first "out of state" 3gun match. Looking forward to it!!!!!! Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke8401 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Looks like AM will be greatly influenced by one’s ability to load a shotgun which is not normally a trait of an amateur. I can’t wait! I’m sure many will ask about max rifle distance to the steel in both AM and PRO. David E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Looks like AM will be greatly influenced by one’s ability to load a shotgun which is not normally a trait of an amateur. I can’t wait! I’m sure many will ask about max rifle distance to the steel in both AM and PRO. David E. I think early on Jeff said AM range would be about 250 and Pro about 350 for rifle. May have changed once the stages got put up but I think it will stay close to that. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueddy Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 This look amazing!! Just looking at the stages got my blood pumping lol For sure need to make shotgun loading a big thing in the training it seems lol So did I read right in the stages, PRO's have to carry/sling their rifles but AM's don't need slings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterready Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I just switched from Open to Tac Optics. My weak hand shotty reloads are 11s for 8 rounds. Man do I need to do some work before August..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 fueddy, you read right, none of the stages require AM's to have a slung weapon, and only one Pro stage has it and they can carry it and shoot one handed with the pistol if they choose. Yes I am excited to its a blend of some close speed, shooting on the move, technical shooting positions, physical movement and longer range targets. Shotgun isn't quite as heavy as pistol or rifle and there is room in most cases to be loading on the move, vice flat foot, so it should be a BLAST jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 fueddy, you read right, none of the stages require AM's to have a slung weapon, and only one Pro stage has it and they can carry it and shoot one handed with the pistol if they choose. Yes I am excited to its a blend of some close speed, shooting on the move, technical shooting positions, physical movement and longer range targets. Shotgun isn't quite as heavy as pistol or rifle and there is room in most cases to be loading on the move, vice flat foot, so it should be a BLAST jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usp45ss Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Did I miss it somewhere? Slugs or no slugs? (Hoping for no.... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 No slugs this time, no need for those big fat expensive rifle type rounds this weekend, maybe a few next year! Next year, hahahahahahhahahahh jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 No slugs this time, no need for those big fat expensive rifle type rounds this weekend, maybe a few next year! Next year, hahahahahahhahahahh jc I once heard a real smart shooter from north Alabama say if he had a shotgun and needed to shoot something with a rifle he would go get a rifle. I thought that was a wise statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 This look amazing!! Just looking at the stages got my blood pumping lol For sure need to make shotgun loading a big thing in the training it seems lol So did I read right in the stages, PRO's have to carry/sling their rifles but AM's don't need slings? I seeem to be unable to locate my link to the match site. Could you help me out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I once heard a real smart shooter from north Alabama say if he had a shotgun and needed to shoot something with a rifle he would go get a rifle. I thought that was a wise statement. Charles, I like that quote! I feel the same way. I've always wondered why folks want to shoot slugs at 75+ yards and rifles at 3 feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueddy Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 if you google "rockcastle 3gun stages" its the 1st link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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