idpa box question

[pbosik]

I just got a STI Trojan in 45 and installed a Dawson Ice magwell on it, i already see that i will need to trim the basepads , but based on the dimensions on idpa for the box ( 8 3/4x 6x 1 5/8 ) this pistol would not fit at all, even without the mag well, which brought me to look at my m&p 9L, it also is too big. So what gives here?

[xcelr8hard]

The Trojan will absolutely fit in the box without the magwell. It will also fit with the STI magwell and a couple of others.

I can't speak for the M&P, but I would assume that the slide is too long.

Butch

[pbosik]

So anyone have a ice on their 1911 and tried a idpa box? on the 9L, that brings up the question, isnt a m&p 5" pro allowed in ssp?

i measured the spec on a piece of paper and the 1911 was to large both length and width, have i lost my mind? dont answer that one..

[Boats]

My 9L fits our clubs IDPA box, Is it a standard box ? I think so but don't know for sure.

Boats

[Brian Gonsalves]

All my 1911's with ICE magwells fit in the box. Standby for a picture!

[Brian Gonsalves]

Here's a couple!

Edit to add, this box came from IDPA Headquarters. It's not square, but official!

Edited June 27, 2010 by Brian Gonsalves

[sirveyr]

Edit to add, this box came from IDPA Headquarters. It's not square, but official!

I would expect nothing less.

[pbosik]

ok thanks for the replys,i will need to belt sand the plastic basepads on a angle, and i do not have a box, but it looke like it will be a jam it in there, at the least..

[Brian Gonsalves]

pbosik ask me in a PM for pictures of with the mags inserted and what mags I use. I thought i would add it here so everyone could see the answer. There were mags in the original pictures as well.

The mags are from Tripp Reasearch. I use the system mags. You need to contact Virgil at Tripp Research and he will make these up for you. They are a little longer than standard mags, making it easier to seat in the bigger magwell. They do have the front of the basepad ground down a bit. I also have one standard mag for "gun in the box" starts. Both size mags hold 9 rounds (.40 S&W) the standard length just gives you a little more room to get it out of the box.

Here is the System mag:

Here is the Standard mag (yes, there is a mag in the gun):

Here is both mags, back to back:

I mainly shoot .40, but for .45 I have Wilson's with the long pad ground down on the front edge.

There are quite a few posts on this topic if you do a few searches. Here's a LINK to one started by Corey that has a lot of info.

Edited June 28, 2010 by Brian Gonsalves

[waktasz]

I haven't put my M&P pro in the box yet, but I know it will fit because there are tons of people shooting them at sanctioned matches.

[pbosik]

i got to test the box fit yesterday at a match and with my kimber tac mag using the big pads that come with them, having shaved them on the correct angle ,all fits well..i am a happy man now..

[MemphisMechanic]

Yeah, you were doing something wrong. My M&P 9L with a huge SSS magwell and 1/4" thicker basepads fit into the box with about 1/4" of slop.

[astephenson]

My Trojan has been in two IDPA boxes since installation of the Dawson ICE magwell. One was a perfect fit, in the other the muzzle and beavertail both lightly touched the sides. The magwell was a non-issue in both. I use Dawson basepads on my Tripp magazines.

[steel1212]

If you don't have a box I suggest you get one if you shoot a lot of 1911s or just a lot of IDPA. They are cheap from IDPA head quarters and if it fits there it will fit the USPSA one as well.

[astephenson]

I got to try my Trojan with Dawson ICE magwell in another IDPA box this weekend. It fit perfectly...as if the box was made for it.

[hankfan79]

I looked on the IDPA website. I didn't see where you can buy the box. Got a link?

[Brian Gonsalves]

Give them a call. I think I paid $15.00 for one. I could have made one, but decided to buy the "official" one.