shooterbenedetto Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Been thinkin about building CZ in open and I think that they can be competitive in the market since it will cost less than custom built STI.I know Canada and Europe has them. Show me your existing or current project. Saw this at cz forum: http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/79-pistole-cz/PCOM/CZ_75_TS_CZECHMATE.aspx Edited April 1, 2010 by shooterbenedetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clown Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 There was some chat about this topic in the cz area. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=98865 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 If this is correct it means that CZ has a chance to compete ammo wise check this base bad! http://czcustom.com/cz75-extended_base_pad_long.aspx +4!! that means that 19rd mag becomes 23 without the grams guts and possibly 25 or 26! +4 that means that 26rd mag becomes 30! without the grams follower! someone correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 The CZechmate is a TS Platform. The basepad you listed was for the Small Frame, but they do have an extended basepad for the TS also. Another thing of note is that the gun comes as a kit with 170 mags. These will be at max length but you will be able to work internally to increase capacity. Just what I am noticing anyway......looking forward to it if it actually comes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Yes Phil I was talking about using this base pad for Tanz or for an Spo01 open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLL1911 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I have been shooting my CZ SP01 Open for about 6 months. It is a standard CZ SP01 converted to single action with standard drop-in factory parts, added a compensator built by Venry d'Aiguillon (Radical Precision) and added a C-more red dot sight, a magwell and a large safety release (I have small hands) from CZ Custom. I am using the original barrel with 9mm Major loads. The compensator is very efficient and it shoots very flat, flatter than a CZ Champion Open with the same ammo. Unfortunately I do not have any pictures at the moment, but I will try to get some very soon, and I will post it. Magazines are the standard CZ 19 rounds with a extended base pad from Pearce Grip (for Berretta 92 / Browning HP) giving 22 rounds count. Big stick is a Tanfoglio long mag (the one that is made by soldering 2 mags together) for 26 rounds count. Yesterday I borrowed from a friend a big stick made from a CZ sub-machine gun mag cut to 170mm). It holds 29 rounds, and I will be using it at the Sunshine Games in Orland later this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thanks for sharing. Venry did mention making cz open guns and he was the one to tell me to make the 170 from a machinegun magazine. what I want to know is to get this +4 basepad and see how many it can hold on the standard 26rd and the 19 round. Pictures would be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 What model CZ "machine gun" mags fit in an SP-01? [quote name='shooterbenedetto' Venry did mention making cz open guns and he was the one to tell me to make the 170 from a machinegun magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) Didnt really make sense to me to cut from a machine gun like the uzi MAC10, but then you still have to modify or weld up the top from a stock mag so it can lock up correctly. The way to go and easier is to weld up 2 mags together! Better yet, buy the 26rd from angus that fits spo1 then put +4 basepad and grams follower.. Edited April 2, 2010 by shooterbenedetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Didnt really make sense to me to cut from a machine gun like the uzi MAC10, but then you still have to modify or weld up the top from a stock mag so it can lock up correctly. The way to go and easier is to weld up 2 mags together! Better yet, buy the 26rd from angus that fits spo1 then put +4 basepad and grams follower.. The factory CZ 26rd magazine is 173mm long stock. You cannot add a basepad to this and be legal for USPSA. Stuart (EERW) showed how to make the factory mag into a 170mm and work on the internals to make it hold 28+1. Outlaw matches that let you run whatever may allow you to add a basepad to your long mags but not USPSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Didnt really make sense to me to cut from a machine gun like the uzi MAC10, but then you still have to modify or weld up the top from a stock mag so it can lock up correctly. The way to go and easier is to weld up 2 mags together! Better yet, buy the 26rd from angus that fits spo1 then put +4 basepad and grams follower.. The factory CZ 26rd magazine is 173mm long stock. You cannot add a basepad to this and be legal for USPSA. Stuart (EERW) showed how to make the factory mag into a 170mm and work on the internals to make it hold 28+1. Outlaw matches that let you run whatever may allow you to add a basepad to your long mags but not USPSA. Got the thread or youtube for that? anyways, at least its a start. I know I spoke to Henning and can make that 26rd to 171mm USPSA legal. By the time its all said and done, I wouldn't be suprize if the mag can hold 29-30rds! the question is will it be RELIABLE.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clown Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 philg80 had a sweet open SP01. I would definitely pick his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 philg80 had a sweet open SP01. I would definitely pick his brain. Ah yes, yes I did.......d&^* bills!!!! The new owner loves it just as much as I did. He said "it is nice to have an open gun that doesn't jam". Now I am working on an XDM Limited Minor/OPEN combo gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Didnt really make sense to me to cut from a machine gun like the uzi MAC10, but then you still have to modify or weld up the top from a stock mag so it can lock up correctly. The way to go and easier is to weld up 2 mags together! Better yet, buy the 26rd from angus that fits spo1 then put +4 basepad and grams follower.. The factory CZ 26rd magazine is 173mm long stock. You cannot add a basepad to this and be legal for USPSA. Stuart (EERW) showed how to make the factory mag into a 170mm and work on the internals to make it hold 28+1. Outlaw matches that let you run whatever may allow you to add a basepad to your long mags but not USPSA. Got the thread or youtube for that? anyways, at least its a start. I know I spoke to Henning and can make that 26rd to 171mm USPSA legal. By the time its all said and done, I wouldn't be suprize if the mag can hold 29-30rds! the question is will it be RELIABLE.. Ask and ye shall receive...... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68549&st=0&p=795657&hl=SPO1&fromsearch=1entry795657 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLL1911 Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I forgot to mention that the 170mm mag I borrowed was made by Venry trimming the bottom of the original CZ 26 mag. It is very reliable - the mag owner, Shay1911 has been using it on his CZ Champion for over a year. I used the mag on our weekly match last evening - flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Hon Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Do you have any pictures of that gun Venry built? Man, I would love to see it. I spoke to Venry about building an open CZ a while back, but it was about the time he started getting sick, and the idea unfortunately fell apart over time. Do you know if he's still working and/or doing these conversions? His idea for the comp arrangement is still the best I've heard. I've got a TS I haven't been shooting much.... hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLL1911 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) Here they are: CZ SP01 Open 9mm Major I haven't seen Venry for a while, and I not sure he is working on these conversions. The key element is the compensator, especially if you are using the original SP01 barrel which does not have an extra length over the end of the slide. I think it could be a little easier using a longer barrel. Initially I bought a 6" barrel from CZ think it would be a must to install the compensator, but Venry figured out how to do it with the original barrel. Compensator by Venry; Single action conversion by my shooting buddy Shay1911, sight mount manufactured by another shooting buddy and installation by Derek (Millennium Custom), big safety and magwell installed by me - it was a long span, multiple hands project - we all are from the same club SFPC Edited April 4, 2010 by FLL1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Here they are: CZ SP01 Open 9mm Major I haven't seen Venry for a while, and I not sure he is working on these conversions. The key element is the compensator, especially if you are using the original SP01 barrel which does not have an extra length over the end of the slide. I think it could be a little easier using a longer barrel. Initially I bought a 6" barrel from CZ think it would be a must to install the compensator, but Venry figured out how to do it with the original barrel. Compensator by Venry; Single action conversion by my shooting buddy Shay1911, sight mount manufactured by another shooting buddy and installation by Derek (Millennium Custom), big safety and magwell installed by me - it was a long span, multiple hands project - we all are from the same club SFPC Your flickr account says it is private. I'd like to see your gun as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 Please fix the link I want to see that Also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLL1911 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I think the link is working now (I am new to Flickr). Now when I use the link it does not ask me to log in. Let me know if it is not working for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I was able to see the pictures from the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Waring Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Dude, that gun is sweet. I like everything about it, and that is a cool compensator. Have any video footage of you shooting it? Fairly flat/soft shooting? Again that is pretty trick, hats off to Venry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Nice gun! Damn, just when I was thinking about selling my SP-01 that has been sitting in the safe... Thanks for the pics! Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) oops (That damn "back" button ) Edited April 4, 2010 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLL1911 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 CZ SP01 Open 9mm Major in action (with a screw-up on reloading just before the end of the stage - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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