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What "hears" "thought"? be no thought

i hear zen is not what you think.

I've tried Sidearmour, Comptac and Blade-Tek, for different pistols Sig, Glock and 1911. They are all good. I tend to think the Sidearmour may be, by a small margin, the best of the three, but they are all good. By best, I guess I mean the most secure in holding the gun and at the same time most ready to let go. None would hold me back, at least at my level.

+1. Indeed Bruce Grey can really transform a Sig.

I am cross dominant, right handed/left eye dominant. Have also had lasik. My right eye is corrected for reading. My left eye corrected for distance. Very messed up for shooting. I have done a bit experimentation and found it best to correct my right eye for distance and leave my left eye uncorrected with my shooting glasses. Fortunately and unfortunately I have still have some residual nearsightedness in my left eye (its not perfect at distance) that enables me to focus the front sight with my left eye. So, in effect, I am correcting my vision to mono vision with shooting glasses to be opposite the mono vision I have normally from lasik. This must sound complicated. Adding to the challenge is my hard won senior status. (I have a theory is that changing mono vision back and forth is an exercise that keeps my brain from atrophying as I age). Anyway, I am of the opinion, that one will probably perform best by going with the dominant eye flow (left or right) and not struggling against it (not that it sounds like you are). And, I'm hoping my comments are constructive to your problem. "I reserve the right to get smarter."

P226 (folded slide). Dawson front F.O./ Warren Tactical rear tungston GR Bruce Gray competition reset pkg. As stated by others, the Bruce Gray work really elevates the pistol.

I dont have any experience with the stainless version P226, but I don't feel disadvantaged with my alloy pistol. It has a tungsten guide rod in it that changes the balance slightly. I'm not personally looking for more weight than a Sig alloy P226.

Sig P226ST in 9mm with Bruce Greys Competition Short Reset package. +1, or, a folded slide P226 w/ Mr. Grey's Competition pkg. and f.o./warren sites!

Maybe I figured out what this means on the range today...it's kinda of a big deal for me actually. Another poster was contrasting "wobble" with hold. Watching the sights, managing the wobble with a smooth press, trusting the hold...

I have changed out the original factory contrast sights (both number 8) for the Dawson .110 X .170 F.O. on my P226 and a Warren Tactical on the rear. This combination provides an excellent sight picture. The POI is slightly lower than perfect. It hits just below the top of the front sight. To compensate, I cover the exact point I want to hit with the dot. This is shooting factory 115gr. WWB that I usually shoot. With 124 and 147 it seems to hit right on. It seems like the Warren Tactical is the equivilent to a Sig #7 factory #7. I hope this helps.

I use a Sidearmor holster with Uncle Mike's double magazine holders. The majority of shooters that I see using Sig handguns in competition use Blade-Tech DOH holsters. I agree that maybe the expensive kydex don't seem to offer much competitive advantage over Uncle Mike's, however I have had an Uncle Mike's melt and warp as a result of sitting in the back of my station wagon without any weapon in it for a hot couple of days. It was covered but just sitting there in the sun (my bad) I guess and "collapsed" under it's own weight to the point that it wasn't possible to insert a gun into it any more. The Sidarmor doesn't "look" like it would do that in a similar circumstance, but I don't think I'm going to test it. I can still purchase two more Uncle Mike's holsters for the cost of a Blade-tech or Sidearmour... and keep them from overexposure to heat. Good luck and have a lot of fun with your Sig.

An STI 1911 SS for ~ $600 is exciting news. I have a question about the fit of the Spartan MSH. It has been reported that the MSH is a little long for the Spartan frame. It is the MSH that's too long for the frame, right? It isn't that the frame is shorter than normal for a 1911, correct? Sorry if this has already been addressed here or elsewhere, or if an error in grip frame length is just not possible. Thanks. Oh yes, can't fail to comment what a great site this is or how interestig the info discussed on this thread and others is.

I am new this year to practical shooting competition so pls take this for what it is worth...Most of my trigger time is with a P226. I have practiced group shooting quite alot with that gun to gain some measure of confidence on long distance targets. Have spent quite a bit of time learning the Sig trigger. My tendeny is to shoot left with the sig. Last summer I attended the local GSSF match. At the match I borrowed a G17. My prior experience with the Glock was during the stage of my development when I was trying to decide what first gun to purchase. I rejected Glock and selected Sig because I shot the Glock very poorly, didnt like the feel of the gun and because the Sig at first was more accurate for me than the Glock and other handguns. Anyway, without any prior experience with the G17 at the match, and without any practice prior to shooting the match, I indeed shot the G17 very well. I shot three other Glocks during the course of the weekend and finaly against my own Sig. With the Sig i still tended to group left and dead on with the Glock (at this point a G35). It was as though all the trigger time with the Sig improved my shooting with the Glock. Since this, I have put in additional tinme with the Glock and, no kidding, my groups with the Sig seem to be tighter and more centered. Comments from people who know how I shoot (poorly) have commented to me support this. The point of this ramble is, sfinney is dead on correct. Glocks are different. They seem to require a much different kind of trigger control. I imagine it is best to concentrate on one platform, but for me, it seems that practice on one platform has "informed" another. Since stock Glock sights are so universally disparaged, it makes sense to change them. Since stock Glock triggers are so easily improved, upgrading yours makes sense, but the main thing is probably about mastering a trigger that is so different from what you are used to. Good luck with your journey and thanks for your patience to my reply.

This is a facinating thread. I hope it is not yet dead. I find it facinating because I am left eye dominant and right handed. I have had lazer eye corrective surgery with my right eye corrected for close and my left for distance. The surgery is very functional for me for most activities such as reading, computer work, driving, etc. When I began shooting handguns, post eye correction, I found it much more comfortable to focus on the front site using my right eye. Therefore I have trained to shoot right handed and using my left eye to sight. Indeed, sometimes, not always, I squint to ensure a non confusing sight picture. Trouble is I tend to shoot to the left. Not down and left, as when I flinch (yes that happens too, but I can usually recognize that and in that case my shots tend low and left), but otherwise my shots tend to group fairly tightly at 9 o'clock. I have noticed that I can exagerate that tendency, but esentially duplicate it, by shooting strong (right)hand only. If I shoot weak (left) handed only, I tend to shoot fairly tightly to the right. I believe this is because of the index of my shoulders, with my gun raised in front of my right eye. I have been wondering if I were to return to shooting left eye/right handed if my shots will tend to be more centered. Of course there is only one way to find out, and I will try to do that this weekend. i am quite looking forward to what I may learn. Everyone's thoughts on this thread so far have been evocative and helpful, for me, and any further ideas would be welcome. In any case, this is quite a forum and I am appreciative of all the ideas in this thread.

I had two sessions at the range yesterday. In the morning, I began with my usual grouping pattern, considerably to the left. Shooting at 10yds., I mostly attempted to let my focus remain on the top of the front sight, trying to see the sights rise during the shot and pressing the trigger smoothly. I wasnt able to pick up any snap caps on the way so was unable to practice ball and dummy drills. In the morning, as I focused carefully on the front sights trying to see them rise, my groups did appear to be moving much more to POA. In the afternoon, it was neccessary to shoot at 25yds. My progress in the morning seemed to have slipped away in the afternoon as my groups had returned to the left again. I had the RO observe me and he failed to detect anything wrong with my grip or stance. Toward the end, I did shift my strong hand grip to get more of the pistol grip more toward the center of my palm. That is my thumb came further around the grip, shortening the reach of my trigger finger. I noticed the (last few) shots moved to the center of the target, actually slightly right. This movement of my grip was counterintutitive to how I thought it should shift it to bring the POI more to the right. Anyway, I will continue to experiment a little more with my grip and I will pick up some snap caps for next time. It was a very pleasant day on the range, even if my groups still push Right and up! I realize now that i should have posted in the Beginner section. Thanks for your patience and your ideas.

I appreciate your replies. Tomorrow will go to the range and practice focus on the front site through the shot. If I can pick up some snap caps, I'll try mixing them with live rounds in the magazine to watch for any pushing action. Thanks for your ideas.

Thanks for the reply. Please excuse my lack of knowledge. I dont really know what ball and dummy drills are. Shooting a magazine loaded with both live rounds and snap caps?

Greetings, I am new to the forum and new (less than a year) to shooting handguns. At this point I am relatively satisfied with my slow fire group size, however I have a definite tendency to group high and to left of point of aim. I do this with more than one handgun, so I dont think its my sights. I do practice dry fire and have no trouble balancing a coin on my barrel when dry firing. I dont see that I am pushing the shot when I do it, but perhaps I am just not seeing it. I have been working on trigger control to the point where I think I am actually trying to compensate with trigger pull. I have been trying to just see the shot, watch the sights lift and I have a long way to go to get competent at that. I dont thgink I am too concerned about recoil, but error analysis supports that I am anticipating. Most of the posts I have seen address Low and to the Left. Can anyone suggest where i might look further on shooting High and to Left, or offer advice. Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this.